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  1. #1
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    Well, I don't want to beat this to death, but it isn't pie in the sky or some imaginary hippie future. It's now.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/20...il-or-gas-jobs

    And this is in spite of the massive tax subsidies and externalities exclusions to the fossil fuel industries, compared with much smaller support to renewables (at least in the USA for both - I don't know how the comparison shakes out in Canada). Yes, there is a lack of political will, that comes from some very specific reasons, but the need for jobs and human health is beginning to outstrip lobbyists' influence.
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  2. #2
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    Why have we not developed alternative energy in last 30 years??

    first of all, oil companies have too much to lose when we get off our addiction to oil. They will only go kicking and screaming like a two yo.

    The technology is there. We just need to develop it. Only exception is nuclear and fusion technology. Both are not practical.

    Examples of why things have not progressed.

    Let's see back in the '30s or was it earlier, oil companies and other automobile companies bought up the trolly system in Los Angeles and proceeded to dismantle it. They wanted to sell cars and oil. Not for people to commute on a mass transit system.

    Who killed the electric car? also a movie by that name worth watching.

    NiMH battery patents and rights were bought up by you guessed it, oil company. And they sat on it until it expired. This precluded the development of NiMH battery and for its use in EV. look up on history of NiMH battery. Chevron is still mucking with it.

    I think solar cells are only relevant where there isn't much of wind. I think we should be looking at different aspect of renewable energy instead of just electricity. We could be using solar heat to heat our water and to heat our house. Saves lot of energy!! and its lot cheaper than solar cell to generate electricity.

    yes its one of my hot button.

  3. #3
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    Our organization has the role of being on the regulatory side on some matters with the oil and gas companies.

    So even if I wanted to ignore, not hear about the industry, I can't.
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    ... and when it's -30C, the locals will do everything they can to hasten global warming.
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