Yes, Irulan, I have read the posts on padded shorts, but thank you for the suggestion. Admittedly I was being a tad offhand in my comment.

One thing I noticed from all those threads on padded shorts is that finding the 'right' shorts is quite the trial-and-error process.

So, before I go out and try to find the 'right' shorts for me, I thought I would ask if anyone had any basis of comparision regarding the Andiamo padded undergarments, i.e., how the padding in them compares to the 'real' biker shorts. Maybe I'm missing out, maybe I'm not. So far, for me, the Andiamos have been quite effective in preventing any chafing or sores - although I've only put in about 175 miles on my bike in the last 2 weeks, including a 50 mile ride a couple of days ago, which in the scheme of things isn't much, but if I were to be having problems I might have gotten a glimmer by now, perhaps. Or not.

And thank you again about the comments regarding the unpadded gloves.

- Jo.