Climbing the steepest streets in San Francisco on a folding bike

[pll]

I will chime in to say that I agree with Jobob, Veronica and Crankin here. I always enjoy seeing your pictures, luv2climb, but your tone in this thread and the ad hominem attacks you made are lamentable.

I clicked on the link you gave to Bike Forums, and fail to see any "one-upmanship" in Bostic's post. If you read the regular threads in this forum, about weekend rides, I would read Bostic's post in the same light, as a similar and relevant report. I don't see any reason to suspect that the poster was exaggerating in any way: considering the tone of the post, and the seniority of the poster in Bike Forums, asking for a video a proof seems just out of place. I am sure there are trolls who exaggerate, but why would anyone bother engaging them?

[luv2climb]

The reason I have a problem with people exaggerating the truth is because that's not how I was brought up. I feel it's pointless to embellish things just to make yourself feel better.

I will repeat. I do not know the poster on BF, so I wasn't going to automatically take his word for it after some of the stuff I've seen other people post on BF. I don't believe everything I read on the internet. I take it with a grain of salt.

Veronica only speaks up when she has something negative to say to me. That is "odd", IMHO.

This is a cycling forum. I don't feel comfortable sharing other things about my life with random strangers on the internet. I know there's no risk in sharing the climbs. And yes, I have posted in other people's threads about other subjects. I don't have the time to go through every thread on every forum though.

I can't figure out why those who are so quick to defend the BF poster can't understand where I'm coming from. You know him. I don't. I don't believe everything I read on the internet. That's just common sense. Now that several of you have insisted that he's telling the truth, I'll believe you.

[shootingstar]

This is a cycling forum. I don't feel comfortable sharing other things about my life with random strangers on the internet. I know there's no risk in sharing the climbs. And yes, I have posted in other people's threads about other subjects. I don't have the time to go through every thread on every forum though.

I highlighted a portion of your comments in green as a reference for mine, before..I get misunderstood.

Hopefully luv2climb you will continue to participate in other forum members' subject threads. Or even initiate topics that are outside of cycling hills.

While, true that it is probably this group of women who also cycle often, would appreciate your hill-climbing, it is after all, an Internet informal community virtual group.

Making it a place that is dynamic for ongoing dialogue, does need the lubricant of other side cycling topics or nothing to do with cycling. I think this is why TE forums has remained an active forum with a decent wide number of regular participants ("regular" can be thought of as only a few times per month/year even).

If we all stuck to just announcing our cycling achievements on the forums, it would be a pretty dry, boring place, after all.

Consider the "social lubricants" or other topics that are related and not related to cycling, that make TE a great place for women cyclists to dialogue and connect --globally.

We need to remind ourselves this..occasionally.

I actually don't care about the guy, etc. and his cycling. I just care about how TE forums hang together and not fall apart.

[MM_QFC!]

Why wasn't there an apology for the unnecessary and uncalled for rude and insulting response to Veronica?
There was a challenge to a post by the OP, but it neither rude nor insulting, so I found the response to be both and undeserved too.
IMHO, there is never a good reason to bring that type of behavior nor speak to any TE member in a rude and insulting way. Isn't that what many of us find objectionable on other forums? When someone chooses to deteriorate to insulting, rude comments to another TE member, then don't others of us have to challenge it to keep our experience here one that is enjoyable, educational, and respectful of each other. I'd prefer not to lower that bar; you?

[luv2climb]

Well, maybe I wouldn't have had to respond negatively if Veronica would stop being so negative to me. Like I said in an earlier post, she only speaks up in my threads to criticize me. Why should I be nice to someone who obviously dislikes me? Yeah sure, you can "kill them with kindness", but that doesn't always work. Some personalities clash no matter what.

For those who wonder why I talk about climbing more than anything else, I have a lifelong condition that I was born with. Cycling, especially hard climbing, is very therapeutic. If I couldn't ride I would be in much worse condition, believe me. That's as much as I'm willing to disclose in a public forum.

[snapdragen]

Let's all step away from our keyboards for a while.

Luv2 - your first mistake was even going to BF.

Now, if any of you think there is a problem with another poster, you can put them on ignore. Then you don't have to worry about misinterpreting what they say, and vice versa. There is another handy feature here on TE - the ignore thread. It's awesome, you can completely block threads you don't want to see.

[luv2climb]

Yesterday I apologized to Bostic in the thread on BF (start with post #17). After that he posted the Strava data I was looking for, in case any of you are interested. And yes, he seems very nice. This is the first time I've had any communication with him. Like I said earlier in this thread. I'm not familiar with him or his posts.

So if any of you are interested you can follow the thread over there. It is a prime example of why I love BF so much. I've been a member there since July 2006, and there are a lot of nice people over there. I ignore the BS threads now and just click on the ones that look more "genuine", if you know what I mean.

I have learned a valuable lesson from all this drama, and that is to keep any doubts I have to myself. I now know that the NorCal regional subforum is not full of the same BS as some of the other subforums on BF.

Here's another reason I don't spend a lot of time on TE discussing non-cycling stuff. My father has told me several times that the internet is a "huge time suck". Like most of us, he loves his computers and keeps them updated, but he balances his time on the net with books and other hobbies (he's retired).

It is possible to waste a tremendous amount of time on the internet. Just the process of editing and uploading videos and photos is time-consuming. First you've got to copy it from the memory card to the computer, which takes several minutes. Then you've got to sift through all the footage and figure out what clips are worth keeping in the editing software. If I use DashWare to overlay the Garmin data onto the video, that's another long process. Then the video has to be rendered and uploaded to YouTube.

Photos are much quicker to edit and upload, but it still takes a few minutes.

I will make it a point to post more often around here, but there's only so many threads I can contribute useful information to. If I don't know about a subject, I'm not going to offer advice or an uninformed opinion.

[Veronica]

I now know that the NorCal regional subforum is not full of the same BS as some of the other subforums on BF.

Yep, the NorCal group is a great bunch. I know you've had a chance to ride with Joel (gawd he's a fast climber!) LanceOldStrong and CCorlew are great to ride with too. If you can, you should join in on the Christmas Eve Diablo ride. It is a beautiful climb and they're a fun, nice group to ride with.

Veronica