Chamois qualities?

[KnottedYet]

I just plain don't find chamois to be helpful.

Like several other TE folks, I either wear tri shorts or compression shorts.

UnderArmour compression shorts only cost $27 or so, so it's a cheap experiment once you find a saddle that fits you properly. TE often has tri shorts on sale, be careful to get an inseam that's long enough and you'll be golden. Don't try going for minimal-to-no chamois until you get the saddle inadequacies worked out, though, or you might end up pretty unhappy.

By the way: have you read Murienn's fabulous saddle thread? What are your inside, outside, and center sitbone measurements?

[jlnc]

So, Knot, you don't wear padded cycle shorts (other than tri shorts) at all? The tri shorts just have minimal padding, correct?
Yes, I have been pouring over the old saddle threads, which is what gave me the courage to try the Jett. It's funny, because many people refer to the Jett as one of the softer Spec. saddles, whereas I think it is rock hard! Normally, I would have steered away from this type of saddle, thinking more gel was better, but the threads convinced me to try it. I will admit I don't fully know all of my sitbone measurements, as I have only gone by the LBS butt measurers. 2 different shops put me at 140.
I've only done a 10 mile ride on the Jett, and it was good enough that I want to try a longer ride, which I will hopefully do this weekend.

[jlnc]

Oh my goodness, after 20 miles today, that Jett was promptly returned! Back to the saddle drawing board...