bikeless in WI "I have no idea why your grandparents let us use flammable liquids with no supervision"

and we ran with scissors and took said bikes to the top of Warrington and rode down till the brakes melted and and ....

"Also there are specific chain cleaning fluids that might work better, though they're likely to be more expensive."

There are bike specific everything all more expensive than non bike specific things.... but cleaning/repair supplies...it's all less expensive than replacing my power train. Or the bike

"And I think you're right that since you're riding in rain and mud, it can't do all that much damage to use water as long as you dry and oil the bike well right away."

It can if you get it in the delicate bike parts, so follow what Sadiekate sed