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  1. #1
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    MY Guru frame has arrived at the LBS!

    DH just went there for something else and this is what he found:
    OK, the pic is upside down...
    2015 Trek Silque SSL
    Specialized Oura

    2011 Guru Praemio
    Specialized Oura
    2017 Specialized Ariel Sport

  2. #2
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    Good thing I had a laptop so I could turn it upside down and appreciate it! Hope it's altogether soon
    2016 Specialized Ruby Comp disc - Ruby Expert ti 155
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  3. #3
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    Nothing is easy with me. This build process has gone super smoothly for DH, but not me.
    First, both pairs of new shoes (road and mountain) had issues. The mountain shoes are fixed, now trying to find liners for the road shoes.
    The Dura Ace brifters are NOT as "short reach" as my R600 short reach brifters on my Kuota, even though they are adjustable. The R600s are now R700s and are 105 instead of Ultegra... I am getting them, despite the fact I will have a crappier level of shifters. LBS tried to blow this off, but DH measured both and just sent an email. He will bring my road bike up there today, to actually SHOW them. Given the fact that I had to research and find the R600s, I knew this would happen. They seem to be stuck on reach/problems with the shifters; my issue is reach and comfort to the brakes. They also ordered a different short and shallow bar, which now I am not sure I trust.
    My expectations are getting lower by the minute.
    2015 Trek Silque SSL
    Specialized Oura

    2011 Guru Praemio
    Specialized Oura
    2017 Specialized Ariel Sport

  4. #4
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    Well I was going to say Happy New Year indeed, but bummer that you're having issues.

    If it's any comfort about the brifters, R700s were Ultegra level when they were introduced, it's just that the short-reach shifters don't get the redesign with the rest of the groupsets, so they really aren't "crappy," just a slightly older design that's now trickled down to 105. I did have one fail on me, but that was an issue common to all Shimano brifters. I've had zero trouble with their actual performance. (And if you've been using R600s all this time, I'd be surprised if the R700s, which are an evolution, don't perform better.)
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  5. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    Nothing is easy with me. This build process has gone super smoothly for DH, but not me.
    First, both pairs of new shoes (road and mountain) had issues. The mountain shoes are fixed, now trying to find liners for the road shoes.
    The Dura Ace brifters are NOT as "short reach" as my R600 short reach brifters on my Kuota, even though they are adjustable. The R600s are now R700s and are 105 instead of Ultegra... I am getting them, despite the fact I will have a crappier level of shifters. LBS tried to blow this off, but DH measured both and just sent an email. He will bring my road bike up there today, to actually SHOW them. Given the fact that I had to research and find the R600s, I knew this would happen. They seem to be stuck on reach/problems with the shifters; my issue is reach and comfort to the brakes. They also ordered a different short and shallow bar, which now I am not sure I trust.
    My expectations are getting lower by the minute.
    Just curious...where did you find the R600 brifters? My older Trek 2100 WSD had the R700's on them and I absolutely loved them...SO much easier to shift than my 6700 Ultegra shifters. I would LOVE to swap 'em out, but the ones on my Trek are for a triple and my current bike is a compact double so they're not compatible.

    Linda
    2012 Seven Axiom SL - Specialized Ruby SL 155

  6. #6
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    OK, well this bike has a compact double... no one has told me they won't work with a compact. We had no response to our emails, from early AM, which is a bit unusual. DH is on the phone now.
    I know that that R700s will be fine... I am just pissed that nothing for small/short people gets upgraded or redesigned like everything else. In fact, I just read something that stated Shimano actually increased the size of some of their shifters. With all of the small women who are on TE, it seems like just this group is enough to show the need is there!
    You know, I am not sure what the silver sleeves are, as I have not actually seen the frame (little thing called work). But, I am guessing it has something to do with the s and s couplers.
    I did find some innersoles that are specially made for people like me who can't tolerate the thicker ones. Actually, I feel fine riding without any in the shoes, but eventually I will get them.
    However, I am surprised at how quickly the frame got built. That's a good sign. It's the components that are causing an issue. At least it appears that i will get to ride this bike before the snow flies.
    I know someone from the shop is trolling the internet, looking for comments about them, so I hope they read this.
    Last edited by Crankin; 09-30-2011 at 12:05 PM.
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    2011 Guru Praemio
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    2017 Specialized Ariel Sport

  7. #7
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    Such a pretty blue.

    I'm sorry you're having component issues, though.
    At least I don't leave slime trails.
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    Saving for the next one...

  8. #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    You know, I am not sure what the silver sleeves are, as I have not actually seen the frame (little thing called work). But, I am guessing it has something to do with the s and s couplers.
    The silver sleeves ARE the S & S couplers.

 

 

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