Oh, and I bought the PI winter cycling boots last year, on SheFly's recommendation. They are awesome. DH just put the Frog cleats on them, in preparation for my new bike. Since I plan to ride that bike until the end of the season, once it gets here, they will get a lot of use this year. I have all kinds of toe covers and booties for my road shoes, though, as well as a box of 100 chemical heaters. They were bought for snow sports when it's below 25, but I find that using them when I ride takes just about all of the discomfort out of cold weather riding for me. As far as gloves go, I can't deal with the loss of dexterity that thicker gloves have. I use a pair of Ibex wool liners under a pair of Terry long fingered gloves. I have some PI AmFibs that I will use if I have to, but once my finger got caught on the shifter using these... I found them to be better for the trigger shifters I had when I had a mountain bike. And the lobster gloves, well, I gave them to my son, who has small hands and rides through the winter.