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  1. #1
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    Rode 20 miles to check out my Frogs and new Shimano mtb shoes that will be going on the Guru. After putting the pedals on my Kuota, we set off.
    It's a good thing I did.
    The Frogs were fine, after learning the little extra motion needed to clip in, different from regular Speedplays. After about 5 miles, my feet, under the whole top part/toes were burning. I thought, OK, it is 87 and humid, but still. DH felt a teeny bit of discomfort which went away. When we got home my feet were hurting for 15 minutes after I stopped.
    So, first we thought it was the pitiful liners that came in the shoes, as compared to DH's. Mine are the top of the line women's mtb shoe Shimano makes. They don't make the ones DH bought for women. His shoes have a rigid, thicker liner.
    But, that wasn't the culprit, although it is part of it. When looking, under the liner, DH found the screws from the cleats pushing up throughout he bottom of the shoe. No wonder my feet hurt! There's 2 screws pushing up against the sole of the shoe! That, plus the crappy liner made me feel it. So, back to the shop I went. The screws are just too long, but they are the ones you have to use with the cleats. Problem was solved by the mechanic cutting them down and then DH just applied epoxy over the plate where the screws are.
    I am going to write to Shimano. The LBS owner stated clearly companies do this, because they don't think women will pay the $ to buy the shoes with the more expensive liner. I am betting there are people riding around in pain... Speedplay clearly states these pedals are compatible with Shimano shoes.
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  2. #2
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    Talking back in the saddle again

    First time on my road bike, outside, in over a year. The weather is beautiful, so me an the bike went to the Cedar River MUP. I've been approved for flat rides with my "improved" knee. Road approximately 18 miles, in 1hr-20min. Why yes I did see the 10 mph signs

    Felt good to be out. Knee did pretty good, felt a tad odd (there's a cut nerve area), but no pain. Tomorrow I see my PT again and tell her the news.
    Beth

  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    Rode 20 miles to check out my Frogs and new Shimano mtb shoes that will be going on the Guru. After putting the pedals on my Kuota, we set off.....
    I am going to write to Shimano. The LBS owner stated clearly companies do this, because they don't think women will pay the $ to buy the shoes with the more expensive liner. I am betting there are people riding around in pain... Speedplay clearly states these pedals are compatible with Shimano shoes.
    This is really sad they do this. I've given up on Shimano shoes myself as they are generally too wide for me. I love my Mavic mtb shoes - outside of the color (WHITE mountain bike shoes? Really?) I do look forward to eventually using my mountain bike cleats, pedals, and shoes on the actual mountain bike

    Quote Originally Posted by bmccasland View Post
    First time on my road bike, outside, in over a year. The weather is beautiful, so me an the bike went to the Cedar River MUP. I've been approved for flat rides with my "improved" knee. Road approximately 18 miles, in 1hr-20min. Why yes I did see the 10 mph signs

    Felt good to be out. Knee did pretty good, felt a tad odd (there's a cut nerve area), but no pain. Tomorrow I see my PT again and tell her the news.
    Congratulations on the road - whooo hooooooo! I remember the agony of being off the bike for almost 4 months...

    Since I rode 40 miles Saturday, and planned on mountain biking today, yesterday I just went for a hike. Good thing I did because my right glute started cramping while hiking

    Today I spent a full 3 hours mountain biking, and I felt much better on the trails today than ever! Lots of fun, though was shocked at the number of people I saw on the trails without helmets. It was also obvious they didn't really know what they were doing, which had me concerned for their heads

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    Congratulations, Beth!
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    here's my trip report for our ride yesterday

    http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showp...3&postcount=55

    I hope you find it interesting.
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  6. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biciclista View Post
    here's my trip report for our ride yesterday

    http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showp...3&postcount=55

    I hope you find it interesting.
    Wow - thanks for sharing this, you were awesome! Hot rides are so hard...

  7. #7
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    Catrin, I agree, I dislike the white shoe trend. Both my new road and mtb shoes are white... for me, who scuffs up and ruins cycling shoes quite easily, I fought this. At least they are not pink.
    The Shimano shoes fit me perfectly. I don't have wide feet, but my left foot is half a size bigger and has a small bunion. I need a wide toe box. Plus, not a lot of companies make women's shoes in my size. Well, the shoes are fixed, the epoxy is dried, and new Frog cleats are installed in my winter cycling boots and Keen sandals. DH convinced me to keep the Frogs on my road bike until I can test out the shoes again. Looks like it might not be until late Thursday or Friday, as rain is moving in. I actually feel like I need a break from riding and this will force me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crankin View Post
    When we got home my feet were hurting for 15 minutes after I stopped.
    So, first we thought it was the pitiful liners that came in the shoes, as compared to DH's. Mine are the top of the line women's mtb shoe Shimano makes. They don't make the ones DH bought for women. His shoes have a rigid, thicker liner.
    But, that wasn't the culprit, although it is part of it. When looking, under the liner, DH found the screws from the cleats pushing up throughout he bottom of the shoe. No wonder my feet hurt! There's 2 screws pushing up against the sole of the shoe! That, plus the crappy liner made me feel it. So, back to the shop I went. The screws are just too long, but they are the ones you have to use with the cleats. Problem was solved by the mechanic cutting them down and then DH just applied epoxy over the plate where the screws are.
    I am going to write to Shimano. The LBS owner stated clearly companies do this, because they don't think women will pay the $ to buy the shoes with the more expensive liner. I am betting there are people riding around in pain... Speedplay clearly states these pedals are compatible with Shimano shoes.
    Oh man, you are sooo right. When I went looking for new Shimano MTB shoes late last year (the Shimano shoes fit my feet well with the wider toebox compared to SIDI), none of their 'WSD' shoes were anywhere as nice as the mens shoes. So I tried on a pair of Shimano mens shoes, a carbon soled, heat moldable model, and fell in love. They don't make that in WSD, what gives? I bought them, and had them vacuum molded to my feet. Heaven. Plus the women's shoes were white. A white MTB shoe. My last pair of white mtb shoes looked like crap in a week. What are they thinking.

    On my road shoes, I have to thank Specialized for realizing that women want good shoes. I bought their 'Pro' model earlier this year, and it is a top notch shoe. Ok, it's white, but this is a road shoe and I am good with it. They came with their good insoles and are well made. I don't find the straps on their MTB shoes comfortable (too narrow and the anchor for the ratchet pressures a bone) or I would have bought them.

    As for your cleat/screw issue, that's weird. Usually MTB soles are thicker than road soles and the screws should fit...

    You can get really nice footbeds from Louis Garneau (heat moldable) and Specialized (different amounts of varus wedge) and others, for your shoes. I used the Louis Garneau ones on my previous WSD Shimano MTB shoes; they were easy to mold to my feet
    Tzvia- rollin' slow...
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    I have the red SIDI dominator MTB shoes. I love them. I don't know what I will do when I need new ones; I sure don't want blue and WHITE would be gross.. and black is so... black.
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  10. #10
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    Four days off and I finally get a chance to ride. Yesterday, some food attacked me, oh I was sick. By last night I started feeling better and the fluids were staying in- so I tried to rehydrate some for today and did a 2 hr MTB ride in Agoura Hills. There were lots of MTBers and hikers so I was not expecting to see any wildlife larger than a bee, but as I stopped to rest a moment and drink- I looked up to see 3 deer staring at me from maybe 25 yards away. It took a moment to register as I was not expecting it. Two does and a big male- next to a downed tree. I just stared at them for a moment, then decided to get going again. When I got back on the bike, they spooked but only ran maybe 10 yards and one of the does stopped under a tree. OK, I should take a picture (boy, you are slow today Tzvia). So I get the phone out of my pack, and take one quick shot as the doe is skiddish, but the camera is set for deep shade as I last used it in deep shade. Ok the picture sucks, so I quickly change the setting but the deer are gone... Sigh. Usually I only see crows, rabbits, rattlers and bugs, and never saw a big male deer with full headgear before in these hills.


    See I told you the picture sucked.
    Tzvia- rollin' slow...
    Specialized Ruby Expert/mens Bontrager Inform RXL
    Specialized SWorks Safire/mens Bontrager Inform RL
    Giant Anthem-W XT-XTR/mens Bontrager Inform RXL
    Fuji Newest 3 commuter/mens Bontrager Inform RL
    Novara E.T.A commuter/mens Bontrager Inform RL

 

 

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