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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by luv2climb View Post
    Are you one of the posters from those other forums who happened to read my posts in this thread?
    Don't think so. I am definitely well know for being an a** both on here and on BF but all I can remember was trying some videos and getting bored out of my mind after 30 seconds, thus moving on to another thread. It was a while back, can't say if those were yours or someone else's.

    Quote Originally Posted by luv2climb View Post
    I really wish the pettiness hadn't driven these other posters you speak of to neuter their videos with annoying music.
    I doubt they changed it due to pettiness, most likely they did because it was just ridiculously boring. Maybe even the Tour could get boring if all we heard was the racers panting for 6-7 hours in a row

    Quote Originally Posted by luv2climb View Post
    I want to hear the intensity of the race and the climb, not a stupid soundtrack.
    The only thing that would give the viewer any info on intensity would be a power reading. Uncontrolled breathing just tells that it was a big effort for that particular rider on that particular day on that particular climb. Doesn't say much about the climb per se. Which is exactly why most people (myself included) find it boring or just say HTFU - there's not much else to say.
    If you notice, a lot more constructive comments get posted when the videos show usable data or the rider also shares graphs and tables from the ride. When there's something to work on, we all do try to help - that's what the online community is for.

    But hey, it's your video: if you like to hear the panting keep posting it - I will keep liking the pictures and finding the video annoying and move on. The beauty of the internet is that we can all agree to disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TxDoc View Post
    Don't think so. I am definitely well know for being an a** both on here and on BF but all I can remember was trying some videos and getting bored out of my mind after 30 seconds, thus moving on to another thread. It was a while back, can't say if those were yours or someone else's.
    I have a feeling they were mine. I have never seen a sufferfest video from a female rider posted on BF. If you have a link to share, I would love to see it. I would also like to see the videos from other posters who you claim posted "huffing and puffing", and later put music over their videos.


    Quote Originally Posted by TxDoc View Post
    I doubt they changed it due to pettiness, most likely they did because it was just ridiculously boring. Maybe even the Tour could get boring if all we heard was the racers panting for 6-7 hours in a row
    Well, I've never seen a Tour video that was 6 or 7 hours long, with or without panting.

    Not everyone feels the way you do. I have had conversations with other BF members who also appreciate raw footage. Raw footage gives the viewer the full experience of the pain of a hill climb.


    Quote Originally Posted by TxDoc View Post
    The only thing that would give the viewer any info on intensity would be a power reading. Uncontrolled breathing just tells that it was a big effort for that particular rider on that particular day on that particular climb. Doesn't say much about the climb per se. Which is exactly why most people (myself included) find it boring or just say HTFU - there's not much else to say.
    That elitist attitude is exactly what I was talking about when I mentioned taking heat on other forums about my "uncontrolled breathing". Climbs are hard for everyone, not just overweight females like me. The climbs I've posted videos of are all known for being very difficult for EVERYONE, not just me.

    I am so sick of hearing that stupid "HTFU" crap that I can't wait until the day I'm strong enough to pass one of these lycra-clad superheroes on my hybrid. On a climb, no less.

    Quote Originally Posted by TxDoc View Post
    If you notice, a lot more constructive comments get posted when the videos show usable data or the rider also shares graphs and tables from the ride. When there's something to work on, we all do try to help - that's what the online community is for.

    But hey, it's your video: if you like to hear the panting keep posting it - I will keep liking the pictures and finding the video annoying and move on. The beauty of the internet is that we can all agree to disagree.
    Cheers
    If you notice, I did post "usable data" on the video in my OP, in the form of data overlay using DashWare. I also posted a link to the Garmin Connect page. But, like so many roadies out there, you immediately focused on the negative and ignored the positive.

    Like I said earlier in this thread, people need to lighten the fk up and not be so arrogant. Beginning cyclists are turned off by this behavior. I'm not a beginner and I'm turned off by it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luv2climb View Post

    Like I said earlier in this thread, people need to lighten the fk up and not be so arrogant. Beginning cyclists are turned off by this behavior. I'm not a beginner and I'm turned off by it too.
    Maybe you need to follow you own advice. All TxDoc did was offer an opinion on how she thought your video could be better. You're free to disagree. I didn't find her opinion particularly arrogant or elitist.

    Huffing and puffing really doesn't give a true measure of how hard a particular climb is. Heck, I huff and puff on the flat when my allergies are acting up! It says how hard you, the person in the video, are working.

    And why exactly are you so angry at the "lycra clad superheroes?" Do you think that just because they are gifted athletically they don't have to work at it? And how do you know they didn't lost 100 pounds three years ago and they are just as thrilled with their progress as you are with yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    Maybe you need to follow you own advice. All TxDoc did was offer an opinion on how she thought your video could be better. You're free to disagree. I didn't find her opinion particularly arrogant or elitist.

    Huffing and puffing really doesn't give a true measure of how hard a particular climb is. Heck, I huff and puff on the flat when my allergies are acting up! It says how hard you, the person in the video, are working.

    And why exactly are you so angry at the "lycra clad superheroes?" Do you think that just because they are gifted athletically they don't have to work at it? And how do you know they didn't lost 100 pounds three years ago and they are just as thrilled with their progress as you are with yours?

    Veronica
    Calling it "uncontrolled breathing" and using that tired old "HTFU" cliche is elitist.

    I'm tired of the arrogance of some roadies. That's why I use the phrase "lycra-clad superheroes".

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    Another thing you have to remember about putting music in videos is the copyright issue. I have seen plenty of videos posted by other people that had the audio completely disabled because Warner Music Group (WMG) or EMI didn't want their music used in the video without permission.

    I have two videos with copyrighted music on them. They were sped up in Windows Movie Maker, which mutes the audio when you speed up the video. They are both recumbent rides on flat ground. The first one has "I'm So Excited" by The Pointer Sisters on it. That video is blocked in many countries due to copyright. Luckily the US isn't one of them.

    The second one has a remix of "Hello Again" by The Cars. That video is not blocked anywhere, since WMG seems to have lightened up a bit about copyright.

    Contrary to what TxDoc says, it is a PITA to find the right song to fit the mood of the video and to fit the video to the length of the song so the song isn't cut off. That's another reason I'm glad I don't have to put music on every video I make.

    Here's the first video with "I'm So Excited": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-MuzISJagE

    Here's the second one with "Hello Again": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsQNesMdvqs

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    Wow luv2climb that is a steep climb. I like how you used DashWare to add the grade and speed. Keep up the climbing, and is just going to get better

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellissima View Post
    Wow luv2climb that is a steep climb. I like how you used DashWare to add the grade and speed. Keep up the climbing, and is just going to get better
    Thank you. DashWare is a fun tool. Of course now people really know how much I suck at climbing! The speeds displayed dropped below 3 mph quite a bit. Of course some of that could be because I'm relying solely on GPS tracking for the data, not a speed/cadence sensor. Also, I've heard that trees affect the satellite signal. I've noticed that when riding through forested areas like the steepest part of this climb. The speed and grade readings go up and down like crazy.

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    By the way, you can always do what I do on those videos with music. Mute the audio. The mute button is a powerful tool that keeps me from going nuts listening to godawful music that isn't my taste.

    I've been posting my videos here for months and you're the first one to complain, so I have a feeling the other people who don't care for the heavy breathing just kept their fingers off the keyboard except to hit mute.

 

 

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