time to get out of the gene pool!

[PamNY]

I had no idea that "jogging" is a derogatory term. Just to be on the safe side, I'll pick up on Eden's post and use "ambulate." Or "ambulate quickly."

I love it. I'm going to do that too.

[SadieKate]

Oh for goodness sake. This is like the argument about "what is a REAL cyclist?"

Does Usain Bolt think Karl Meltzer is a jogger?

[salsabike]

Oh for goodness sake. This is like the argument about "what is a REAL cyclist?"

Exactly what I was thinking. It also goes on in the fine craft world: is fine craft art? What's craft? What's art? Whenever I see those articles in the magazines I get, my eyes glaze over and I start looking at all the pictures...

[SadieKate]

What is porn?

[tangentgirl]

What is porn?

Right?

***

I'm going to start a magazine called Joggers' World. First off, I get to be on the cover, with an ice pack on one knee, trying to roll the shin splints out of my other leg.

There will be articles like, "Finding the Best Rest Spots in Your Neighborhood," "Slow Down! Running's for Suckers!" and "Jogging Nutrition: Marlboro, Winston or American Spirit?"

Amby Burfoot will send in derisive letters to the editor every month, until around 2052, when he turns 125 and will have to start jogging instead of running.

The back page will be a dedicated section for people of note called "I'm a Jogger. Sometimes." The copy editors will rail against this redundancy, but it will stick.

***
If that doesn't work, I could always try to answer that pesky porn question.

[salsabike]

Right?

***

I'm going to start a magazine called Joggers' World. First off, I get to be on the cover, with an ice pack on one knee, trying to roll the shin splints out of my other leg.

There will be articles like, "Finding the Best Rest Spots in Your Neighborhood," "Slow Down! Running's for Suckers!" and "Jogging Nutrition: Marlboro, Winston or American Spirit?"

Amby Burfoot will send in derisive letters to the editor every month, until around 2052, when he turns 125 and will have to start jogging instead of running.

The back page will be a dedicated section for people of note called "I'm a Jogger. Sometimes." The copy editors will rail against this redundancy, but it will stick.

***
If that doesn't work, I could always try to answer that pesky porn question.

<snort>

[jessmarimba]

I know we're very upfront here about bikes only being where they're legally allowed to be (roads) but regardless of the law, I pretty much run in the street (unless I'm in the rare area that has asphalt sidewalks/paths). Concrete just plain hurts. My back says no. My knees say no. The bottoms of my feet say no. The historic red rock sidewalks in some parts of Denver hurt even worse.

This may be why I've become much more of a trail runner since moving here - not too many places where running in the street is safe.

[Tri Girl]

Right?

***

I'm going to start a magazine called Joggers' World. First off, I get to be on the cover, with an ice pack on one knee, trying to roll the shin splints out of my other leg.

There will be articles like, "Finding the Best Rest Spots in Your Neighborhood," "Slow Down! Running's for Suckers!" and "Jogging Nutrition: Marlboro, Winston or American Spirit?"

Amby Burfoot will send in derisive letters to the editor every month, until around 2052, when he turns 125 and will have to start jogging instead of running.

The back page will be a dedicated section for people of note called "I'm a Jogger. Sometimes." The copy editors will rail against this redundancy, but it will stick.

***
If that doesn't work, I could always try to answer that pesky porn question.

HA! I'd buy that!!!

[PamNY]

I'm going to start a magazine called Joggers' World. First off, I get to be on the cover, with an ice pack on one knee, trying to roll the shin splints out of my other leg.

Brilliant. I will subscribe.

[SadieKate]

Tangent - where do I subscribe?

[OakLeaf]

Oh for goodness sake. This is like the argument about "what is a REAL cyclist?"

Does Usain Bolt think Karl Melter is a jogger?

The verb has somewhat to do with subjective speed. Usain Bolt could jog alongside me while I'm in an all-out sprint (heck, he could probably walk beside me ). That wouldn't mean I would be jogging.

The noun is just plain derogatory. It implies the person doesn't belong on the road. Which was pretty much the point of the OP...

I mean, seriously, I am about as insulated from advertising as an American can be, yet I was saturated with that "We Are Not Joggers" ad campaign. It was everywhere. Did you all miss it????


Anyway, this is exactly why I prefaced my request with the reminder that I'd been called out for using the word "cager."

[Eden]

Regional thing?? I've never heard of jog/jogger being an insult either.....

[Owlie]

I certainly missed the memo that "jogger" was derogatory. But then, I don't run/jog/ambulate quickly unless I'm being chased.

[SadieKate]

Oakleaf, I wasn't calling you out at all. I just find the whole jogger/runner discussion as funny as the "real" cyclist discussion, and craft/art, and blogger/writer. And, yes, I jog/shuffle/run, but I don't do it with a giant sign telling people I also cycle so don't they dare call me [fill in the blank].

I think the OP made it very clear that she didn't know that anyone perambulating by any term was allowed to be in the road and did not use it in a derogatory manner, just as it seems the majority of us do not see it as a derogatory term.

I think this splitting of hairs is why so many women don't see themselves as athletes. It's all in the cultural verbiage and pressure to have 0% body fat, or pinch less than an inch, rather than just getting your butt off the sofa and DOING.

[Bike Writer]

[QUOTE=OakLeaf;592100]

I mean, seriously, I am about as insulated from advertising as an American can be, yet I was saturated with that "We Are Not Joggers" ad campaign. It was everywhere. Did you all miss it????
QUOTE]

She raises her hand and admits - I missed it! But I have also been accused of living under a rock now and again for years at a time, what can I say, I just get out of touch?