Well at SK's suggestion, I've ordered the Descentes. Of course, I'll probably love them and then they won't have anymore.

The chamois in the wicked expensive Louis Garneu's looks interesting. I may try those if the Descentes don't work out.

I definitely prefer a thin chamois. Yesterday I wore a pair of Spin shorts for a two hour date with Coach Troy. They have a very minimal chamois.

V.