It only takes one jerk to make me want to swear-off group rides.

[OakLeaf]

I'm not saying this person isn't like that ... the world is full of them unfortunately. But is it possible you misinterpreted "plastic bike?" I know people who just refer to the carbon bikes in their stable as plastic, kind of in a cutesy way.

[zoom-zoom]

I'm not saying this person isn't like that ... the world is full of them unfortunately. But is it possible you misinterpreted "plastic bike?" I know people who just refer to the carbon bikes in their stable as plastic, kind of in a cutesy way.

Perhaps...but the way she said it definitely had the air of "oh, you're one of those noobs who goes out and gets carbon right away, before you've 'earned' it." Given our rough chipsealed roads I'll recommend carbon to anyone with the budget--regardless of experience. New riders are more likely to want to ride more on a bike that doesn't vibrate them to death.