Problem is motorcyclists, not cyclists

[shootingstar]

Motorcyclists face many of the same issues we do especially visibility and vulnerability of car crashes. We should be working together. We have a lot to learn from each other.

Except the problem in Taiwan is that there is an abnormally high fatality rate of motorcyclists..part of it cutting in and out without signalling by motorcyclists plus some of the car drivers.

Cyclists there look positively sedate, according to dearie. It is a cultural difference, where people might gravitate to using motorcycle or mopeds instead of a bike.