Quote Originally Posted by zoom-zoom View Post
I think I will do that in the next day or so. Perhaps they can steer me toward shorts with chamois placement that will work for me, too. I'm so leery to move away from PI, since I had tried so many other brands and none had a chamois that was placed right for me (nearly everything else sat back too far for my anatomy)
Every time I try non-PI chamois I regret it, so I know what you mean. I really like the 3D Elite chamois. I do have two pairs of Terry shorts - their Liberty shorts I can't tolerate for more than 40-45 minutes, the chamois is just too minimal or placed wrong, can't figure out which. Terry also has a liner short with pink waistband and grippers that came with my baggy short that my body seems to like better. Haven't been brave enough to wear it for more than a 20 mile ride, but it seems find for that.