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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica View Post
    Given the numbers of people who travel here in the US I suspect we would need to get to the airport a DAY or two ahead of our flights to get interviewed by the well trained agent to see if we are terrorists.


    And how many well trained agents would there need to be at every airport? How much money are those well trained agents going to get paid yearly? What funds are going to be used to pay them?

    Israel as a country is like 1/10 the size of California. How many major airports do they have? Fewer than California I suspect.

    What you are suggesting would be a huge undertaking and a massive financial burden on someone - either the travelers or the taxpayers.

    Veronica
    I beg to differ. The TSA tries to replace intelligence with mechanical checks and technology. TSA security protocols are entirely reactive: take the check on shoes or the liquids issue... Those backscatter machines were not free (they run at the tune of $100k to $200k per machine, not considering training and maintenance costs, assuming, even hoping, they spend on that at all). Perhaps that money, now lining some company's pockets, should have been used in training of the huge number of staff members the TSA already has in place. Or to train sniffer dogs. Instead of smart profiling, they terrorize people and they have the perpetual and misused threat of adding people to the no-fly list. Does anyone honestly feel safer since the TSA was created, seriously? Air marshals were a good idea -- I think that was an Israeli practice. Taking our shoes off, carrying ZIP lock bags... not so brilliant.

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    We are flying to Belize tomorrow morning (out of Charlotte), and I'll be interested to see if we get asked to do the backscatter x-ray. We haven't flown since the new regulations. If I am chosen to have the x-ray, I plan to opt out, as I've had so many x-rays in my life that I don't want any more radiation.

    I don't think the pat-down will bother me, as long as it's done quickly and professionally. But it would be great not to have either. We'll see!
    Emily

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    I went in to the doctor today for more x-rays, and I chatted with him a bit about the machines. He was pretty certain that the hardware will be picked up by the image scanners regardless (despite the fact that the machines shouldn't be able to see under the skin) and he seemed to think that when I am called for a secondary pat-down, it is because we are dealing with lesser-trained agents who don't recognize the hardware for what it is. His advice was to just show them the scar when they pull me aside

    (just wanted to note - I will go through wave mm detectors, but not x-ray)

    "I never met a donut I didn't like" - Dave Wiens

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    Good luck with the Charlotte airport. I am not fond of that air port. Used to live outside of Charlotte and my husband flew several times for work and my sister flew a couple of times to visit us. Most of the it was more an issue with finding luggage upon getting off the plane because they never seem to know which luggage carousel is going to get what plane's luggage. The last I'd heard that is one of the air ports looking at kicking TSA out in favor of private security due to some issues.

 

 

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