Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
Have you confirmed it's not the shape that's a problem for you? The Liberator is very wedge-shaped, and so are the SI saddles you pointed out. Personally I can't even begin to ride the Liberator - it's plenty wide for me in theory, but it's so wedge-shaped that it forces my sitbones well forward of the widest part of the saddle, and I end up with all my weight on my tender parts on the nose.

If you try a much more T-shaped SI Turbomatic let me know how it works for you ...
The Liberator is great on my bum! First saddle that I've been on that actually allowed me to feel some weight on my seat bones instead of the middle bits. But when I'm in drops, there is too much pressure on the soft bits up front due to the cushy cutout. But it's manageable.

My main issue with the Liberator is the weight. I want a lighter saddle on my road bike. The Liberator is going to shift to my Bike Friday.

I do need something over 155 - probably more in the 160 range. Anything less than that just won't cut it. And I need a cut out. I wish I could try the SMP Plus...but that's a heavy one too.