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    Thank you for your input.

    He really works at a desk job, and as far as I know a sometimes quite stressful job too, but there's not so much he can do about this. Of course he can make an effort to stand up and walk around more often.

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    Beware of not getting enough salt. That's a chronic issue for me. I hadn't even been trying to cut down and kept bouncing off mild hyponatremia until I started making sure to drink electrolyte drinks instead of plain water. (Once I even wound up in the ER on IV saline.)
    Thank you for pointing this out. From what I've read so far, it seemed to me that less salt is always better. The mentioned DASH plan recommends about 2/3 teaspoon of salt per day, which seems not much if you want to prepare 4 meals and take into account that some foods like bread already contain salt (but maybe I'm overestimating the amount of salt I normally use, I will have to watch it more closely).
    We also drink plain water only.

    Nice to hear that taking medication doesn't affect your DHs ability to ride, Crankin. I will tell DH that he may have to make it clear how much exercise he does, so that the doctor can prescribe the right medication for him.
    My mum is on beta blockers and does not do very well on them, it's one of the reasons that I am concerned about DH taking bp-meds.
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    One thing you might consider is switching the kind of salt you use. I would ask a human doctor before doing this, but sometimes in heart patients they have them use a potassium chloride instead of sodium salt. I don't know what the taste difference is, but especially if you are on a thiazide diuretic (which tends to help you retain sodium and lose potassium) it might be a viable alternative. I have no evidence or proof to back that statement up, but it might be worth looking in to. Another thing I have read is that sea salt may not have the negative side effects on cardiovascular health that regular salt does.

    It's tough when you are doing everything right and still your health isn't perfect. I have a good friend who is fit and lean and his bad cholesterol is off the chart, despite a vegetarian diet and cholesterol losing drugs. But just think about how much worse it might be if you weren't doing everything you could already, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westtexas View Post
    One thing you might consider is switching the kind of salt you use. I would ask a human doctor before doing this, but sometimes in heart patients they have them use a potassium chloride instead of sodium salt. I don't know what the taste difference is, but especially if you are on a thiazide diuretic (which tends to help you retain sodium and lose potassium) it might be a viable alternative. I have no evidence or proof to back that statement up, but it might be worth looking in to. Another thing I have read is that sea salt may not have the negative side effects on cardiovascular health that regular salt does.

    It's tough when you are doing everything right and still your health isn't perfect. I have a good friend who is fit and lean and his bad cholesterol is off the chart, despite a vegetarian diet and cholesterol losing drugs. But just think about how much worse it might be if you weren't doing everything you could already, right?
    I have done this before and the potassium does taste different, although it has the bitterness that we identify with salt. You get used to it in a few weeks. I only switched at the advice of a doctor and I didn't have to keep using it long term.

    Good luck. I don't know much about BP problems. I do know a 12 year old with them right now though, and it baffles me. She is struggling with it because of the "no activity" rules her doctor gave her. She can't play outside the rest of the summer. Mine has always been fine and I'm not even at a healthy weight.
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    I have broderline HT and have been taking Lisinopril for about 6 years with no problems. So trhe meds and reactions may vary from person to person.
    Another thing I did not see is the time of day has an influnce on Bp(it starts out low in the morning and climbs thru the day)

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    Yes, it is very important to make it clear how much exercise and what intensity level you do, because as we have both found out, many physicians have no concept of what we do, even though it is nowhere near competitive level. It's a lot more than what they envision, i.e. taking a walk a few days a week, or a few classes at the gym. And this becomes even more important as you age. Anyway, DH is about to ditch his cardiologist for the one he went to for a second opinion. It's a bit of a pain to go into the city, but this guy is used to working with athletes and is on the cutting edge of treatment, being at a hospital that is known around the world.
    I think i need to start standing more, too, although I don't think I can do therapy standing up... I've noticed changes in my body, since I stopped teaching, which is a much more active job.
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    I second taking into consideration genetic factors. Is there a history of high blood pressure in his family?

    My mother has always been low-normal weight, eaten a fairly healthy balanced diet, and always active...her blood pressure is through the roof without medication. In fact, almost every woman in her family has had blood pressure issues.

    And now, I have it, too. Though I didn't realize it until I started getting chronic migraines and we started digging into what was causing them. I take a daily 10mg dose of Lisinopril, and that is enough to keep my numbers low enough to a) prevent migraines and b) keep my doctor happy, without impacting my ability to swim, bike, or run.

    I'm not thrilled with the idea of a daily medication, but since I've done all of the other things the doctor has suggested (mainly changes in diet, since I was already actively exercising 4-5 times a week) I was willing to do it to get rid of the migraines I was experiencing regularly. Especially because those migraines caused me to DNS four races/events in the past two years.

    For the record, my doctor wouldn't treat 150/80 with medication. He would start by saying no caffeine. Then: limited sugar, taking a look at overall added salt intake and possibly adjusting that downward (though he's not entirely convinced that salt is the blood pressure demon that it's made out to be), adding more fish to the diet, and reducing refined carb intake. Caffeine is really the big one for him, though. (Of course, I go to a doctor that thinks changes in lifestyle are better for you than taking pills. So, he saves the pills until he's seen the other changes don't/won't work for someone.)
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    Since I already know that my food allergies cause palpitations and increased heart rate, I started poking around to see if they could cause hypertension too.

    A while back Dianyla posted a chart of histamine pathways in the body. Yup, hypertension is on there.

    Up until now it hasn't really been worth it to me to adhere strictly to my allergy diet. It was like a 30% improvement in quality of life for a 200% increase in hassle. But if it'll keep me off BP meds I'll work at it. Maybe your DH should try a challenge diet, especially if he has known allergies of any type.
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    My hubby is on a couple of low-dose BP meds. I'm not sure which ones, but the ones he was originally on caused horrible edema. What he's on now doesn't.

    He's very active...high BP runs in his family...this is a family of slim cyclists and marathon runners. He's 20-30#s overweight, but this isn't the cause of his HBP--it would be there even at ideal weight.

    He has started to stand at work. Fortunately he works for a major office furniture manufacturer, so he was able to change to a standing height desk and has a taller office chair when he needs to sit.

    Can your hubby sit on a yoga ball if a taller desk is not an option? I know a few people who do this, since it helps to work the core and requires more work to stay upright.

    Another thought is to look for a physician who understands the specific needs of athletes. We really lucked-out...our doc is an avid cyclist who often commutes to the office on his bike. We're really fortunate to have a PCP who treats us as athletes and not the same way he would treat the general couch potato public. Years ago I was having knee issues and my doc and his PA both helped me find a solution that didn't = stop running...many docs would have told me to quit being active, which is backwards.
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    As I understand it (but I'm no doctor), stress can really affect BP. If your husband's job is very stressful--to the point of affecting his health--it might be an opportunity to figure out how to lower that stress. I left a job that was so stressful that I had multiple health problems from the stress. I did not have high BP, but I serious bruxism, nearly chronic back and hip pain, and extra weight. I left that job and those issues resolved themselves.

    Just something to think about as you and your husband figure out how best to be healthy and happy.

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    Regarding cutting back on salt to decrease BP, make sure to read this article from last week's Dr. Gabe Mirkin e-zine. I found it quite interesting. In a nutshell, he does not think the research supports cutting salt intake except in non-exercisers, and in fact, that it can be dangerous to do so in athletes:

    http://www.drmirkin.com/public/ezine050811.html

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    Thank you for all your answers.

    Crankin, that's what I meant, when they hear someone is being active or "doing sports" they think about a small biketour on the weekend. And it's ok, I guess they are right most of the time. Most people consider themselves "active" and think that they "eat well" even if they don't - and probably doctors are used to this.
    Finding a physician that is more used to treating active people or even an athlete herself so that she can relate to what we do - I guess this would be great.

    As far as I know, high bp is not common in DHs family, but he told me that he had high bp as teenager, so genetics could be a factor.

    Regarding his job, DH cut back one work hour the last few days and slept a little longer than usual. He cut back on coffee. I don't know how long this will last, but I guess it won't do any harm
    I tried to de-stress him a bit, took him for a small biketour in the evening and made some good-night tea.

    Emily, this article is really interesting. Strange how different studies sometimes come to contradicting results. I think I will just continue to use enough salt to taste while not overdoing it - this seems to make the most sense to me.

 

 

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