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  1. #1
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    Angry Selle An-Atomica under new ownership + FAIL

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    So Tom, the owner of Selle An-Atomica passed away last summer. His sisters have taken over the business as of the last 6 months or so. In my quest for a saddle I spoke with Carol after she returned from the bike show in Vegas recently.

    She was incredibly helpful. And as the website has very little useful information, she took all the measurements and weights down and called me with the details. She explained that they were both very new to this and learned a lot at the bike show from users of the saddle. She told me the questions she was most often asked was width and weight of the saddle. So she needed to know this info anyway.

    So, she told me the saddle was:

    250mm wide
    430-480 g

    I thought "Hey! My sit bones are 150mm! This would be great for the hybrid! Nice and wide and with a cut out and US made! Awesome!"

    I asked if the 30 day return still stood. She said "What 30 day return?!?" They had no idea it was on the website or offered and said she wasn't too happy about that, but would take it back as a demo if I didn't like it. But assured me she had never had a return.

    Today was saddle day! And I thought that for a 250mm wide saddle, it was awful thin.

    Put it on the bike and followed the instructions anyway. Hours later I can confirm the thing is only 190mm measure edge to edge. If I flip it over I measure only 140mm leather between metal edges. sigh....

    I've sent her the email asking for a refund and explaining the difference between my measurements and what she told me. Where in the heck she got 250mm from I dunno! But had she said 150 or even 160 I wouldn't have bothered. What a waste. I'm so bummed. Tried to get hubby on it but he is not a fan at all.

    I suppose I should have asked you folks to measure your saddles. But I figured the owner of the company with a saddle in her hand would KNOW.

    Agh! So frustrating!!!! They should have this stuff up on their website so there is no confusion!

  2. #2
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    Heard back from Carol already - she will take it back and refund my money. Lesson learned she said...she must have measured wrong. That's good news. But boy, what a bummer.

  3. #3
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    You know what... I realize it's wrong to speak ill of the dead... but my business dealings with Tom were not so great.

    I ended up returning my defective saddle I purchased from him. He was just such a jerk. Not only did he insist that I keep his clearly defective saddle, he personally insulted me from a phone conversation we had prior to purchase after the fact, AND then he had the audacity to deduct from my refund *his* money order costs for refund... much less I was out my shipping cost both ways to receive the saddle, and ship it back for defect.

    Sometime shortly after that for reasons not mentioned TE stopped carrying his line. Can't speak for TE, but crimony, I'd ride a 2 x 4 board scrap outta my garage before I'd repeat that experience.

    Hope you get all your issues worked out.
    Last edited by Miranda; 04-23-2011 at 07:27 PM.

  4. #4
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    Sounds like the sisters are a lot nicer than Tom. And they are learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hulagirl View Post
    So Tom, the owner of Selle An-Atomica passed away last summer.

    Actually, he passed away almost exactly a year ago. He was riding last year's Devil Mountain Double at the time.

    This years' DMD is next weekend.

    (This is admittedly not really relevant to the thread discussion, but I've been thinking about DMD and it was a surprise to see Tom's name pop up here).

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    it's funny how that works, isn't it?!
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    I love mine. I have them on all my bikes. Actually, when I heard Tom died, I bought a spare, in case the company didn't continue. I never had any issues to deal with. I was happy from the first ride. I have probably close to 10,000 miles on my first one, and it's still going strong.
    '02 Eddy Merckx Fuga, Selle An Atomica
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    Slacker on wheels.

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    my husband loves his too. But that's why there are so many saddle brands. We are all a little different in that area...
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    My husband loves his too. It's the only one he'd choose to ride a century on.
    They don't have any wide enough for my sit bones, so i stick with my Brooks B68.
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    When Tom started selling the saddles, he figured enough people would fit his saddle and someone else could worry about the others. More or less the definition of a niche market and it worked well. I think it's cool his sisters are keeping it going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jobob View Post
    .... but I've been thinking about DMD ..... [/I]
    Hmm. Me too !
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    Quote Originally Posted by maillotpois View Post
    Hmm. Me too !
    Oh, and why would that be?

    tic ... toc ... tic ... toc ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jobob View Post
    Oh, and why would that be?

    tic ... toc ... tic ... toc ...

    Oh no reason.....



    It better not be raining like this on Saturday - I will just say that RIGHT Now.
    Sarah

    When it's easy, ride hard; when it's hard, ride easy.


    2011 Volagi Liscio
    2010 Pegoretti Love #3 "Manovelo"
    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
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    2001 Colnago Ovalmaster Stars and Stripes

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    Right now it looks like it will be a nice 72 degrees for you guys.

    Of course I could wear my new bike jersey. It has a Tiki god on it - Lono - god of luck and fertility. Thom reminded me fertility = rain. He thinks it's cursed like the Tiki the Brady Bunch kids found.

    We'll see you at the base of Hamilton.

    Veronica
    Discipline is remembering what you want.


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    I need neither the rain fertility or other fertility gods at this point.....

    See you Saturday, if all goes well. 72 would be amazing. That's about what the 400k was last week, and I almost seized up from being unaccustomed to riding in sunshine. It's been a little rough weather-wise.
    Sarah

    When it's easy, ride hard; when it's hard, ride easy.


    2011 Volagi Liscio
    2010 Pegoretti Love #3 "Manovelo"
    2011 Mercian Vincitore Special
    2003 Eddy Merckx Team SC - stolen
    2001 Colnago Ovalmaster Stars and Stripes

 

 

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