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  1. #1
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    Yup. I know Ford didn't take any money. I alluded to that but I guess you missed the whole point. Ford is diversified and sends and takes $$$ back and forth on each and every vehicle. Those union guys couldn't make those cars without the people in those other countries. Why? Ford and all the rest sent their $$ overseas because they can and are making good stuff, their labor is a lot cheaper than the local guys can produce, even with shipping costs. Ford sent a bunch of manufacturing of the whole vehicles too.

    We are a big reason why the global economy is strong. When we tanked a bit, the whole world felt it. We rely on everyone around us, not just a few thousand people who are in a certain union. We are somewhat responsible for them as well, since we've chosen to make them an integral part of our system. To say that you are buying completely American and only from a totally Union shop is false. There is no such product on this earth.

    Btw, you are on a global forum right now. People from all walks, all continents, working together so that it gets better for all. If this was just a bunch of USA only women on here, we would be missing so many good things. It just wouldn't be the same. Personally, I'd also be missing my brakes, seat, pedals, handlebars, grip tape, frame, spokes, etc.... because they were all made in other countries with an "american" badge on the front of the bike.


    Oh, and yes, I'm a union employee, too.
    Oh, that's gonna bruise...
    Only the suppressed word is dangerous. ~Ludwig Börne

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    Ford owned 33-37% of Mazda for quite a few years. It made $$$ so they kept buying in more. Then when they made some not so smart moves and tehn the US stared buying "american", they tried to sell off the brand because americans thought Mazda wasn't an american company. Many american jobs were created with that company, and many were lost so that we could buy american. As I stated, they were the majority stock holder. Everyone has their hands in pockets all over the place these days. Everyone. There is no buying strictly american or union, for that matter. It simply doesn't exist.

    Yes, true. Unions did a lot for working conditions. You said it, they helped bring them up the standards of the rest of the world. For such a "we are all equal, we all have rights, we are free, we are the best" country, why did we need to rise up in unions in the first place then? Why were our conditions that way compared the rest of the civilized world? The mighty dollar, which seems to control everything, is the answer. We are rather greedy bunch here, wanting ours and screw everyone else. We fail to see that by having that mentality, we screw ourselves, too.

    Have a nice day. I'm going shopping.
    Oh, that's gonna bruise...
    Only the suppressed word is dangerous. ~Ludwig Börne

 

 

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