I guess I've never really considered any of the rides I do as training rides...they're just rides to me. This time of year, I'm still in the "building up" phase from having 3-4 months off of riding...but my rides are still usually in the 30-50 mile range. I don't particularly set out to reach a certain average speed or cadence, because in my area the wind will generally dictate that. As I get further into the season, my rides will increase in mileage and normally settle in around the 75 mile mark, with a few 100-milers (maybe 1/month) thrown in as a test of endurance. I don't ride with a club (all too fast for me) or a group, well...ok, I guess I do if you call 3 of us "a group". I could never keep pace with the clubs that ride around here...I've seen them out on the road, been passed by them on dozens of occasions, and they are always riding at 20+mph. My average speed is usually at or below 15mph (lots of urban riding with many stoplights)...so they would be out of my sight literally within minutes. I'm sure the rides those clubs do would be classified as "training rides", since I'm pretty sure most of them are on a team (based on the matching team kits they all wear).