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  1. #1
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    Crankin, I'm so sorry. This is just tragic.

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    Wow, the driver has actually been charged with motor vehicle homicide by negligent operation. Good for MA. I'm really sick of our lives being taken without any charges filed.
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    I am just guessing, but I am betting the driver just ran right into him in a lapse of attention. I have ridden behind this man countless times and I can't imagine him doing anything dangerous.
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    I am so sorry for you and the families loss.

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    Condolences to all affected Crankin.

    Quote Originally Posted by redrhodie View Post
    Wow, the driver has actually been charged with motor vehicle homicide by negligent operation. Good for MA. I'm really sick of our lives being taken without any charges filed.
    +1. We had one recently where a car hit two cyclists, killing one, and the driver escaped jail cos it was a 'lapse in judgement'. Fed up with this attitude from drivers and courts.

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    I know how this hurts; I lost a friend at the beginning of March, horribly similar deal... wide open country road, she and her husband experienced riders on a tandem (she was blind) with flags and banners and a trailer in the back... gone is such a permanent word.
    (Here... our state's attorney will probably charge the driver with a petty misdemeanor -- failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident. I'm afraid that absolutely everything our state's attorney says, does, and doesn't would be indicative that she sincerely believes bicyclists should stay off the roads.)
    It pisses me off. If the nice people who really didn't mean any harm and gosh, don't we feel *sorry* for them because they have to live wiht this ... are going to run me off the road, they *do* have to do it literally, because Cindy and David didn't have a choice-- their disabilities meant that bike was their way everywhere. And it's more bicycles out there that will make it safer. I am hoping to figure out how to make rear air bags for bicycles -- especially if they'll permanently take out the car that gets too close to them...

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    More information about the kind of person he was.

    http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/...killed_in.html
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    Crankin, I'm so sorry. What a terrible loss.

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    Damn, that's so sad and tragic. I am so sorry for you, his other friends, his family, his patients, and colleagues. Too many good people die on our roads.

    We lost a remarkable cyclist and friend a few years ago, actually in a car accident, but it hit me really hard as he was someone I so admired and who had been so kind to me after my cycling accident. He had also encouraged and helped me with my cycling when we road with a club.

    This also scares me b/c my DH rides LOTS of solo miles, and losing him this way is my biggest fear. I don't worry nearly as much about myself, but when he's out there alone, even though he's a great bike handler and very experienced, that doesn't keep something like this from happening. So many drivers are distracted and just don't see us.

    I can't wait to escape to Belize. Where we'll be, the number of motor vehicles is a small fraction of in the US per capita. Most vehicles are golf carts and bicycles. After losing my dad in a car accident, I've really grown to loathe cars.
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    When will drivers be at least thrown in a jail for a few years if they are responsible for a cyclist's death? I know, radical. But there has to be a stiffer penalty.

    Otherwise it's like hitting a tree on someone's private property.
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    I'm starting to sound like a broken record on this issue, but the problem isn't the penalty, it's the difficulty of proof. Vehicular homicide needs to be a strict liability offense just like all other traffic offenses. The minute they kill someone, drivers are absolved of their ordinary duty to be responsible for the operation of their vehicles, and instead, prosecutors must prove (depending on the state) at a minimum negligence, sometimes as much as recklessness.

    IOW, it's easier - far easier - to convict someone of hitting a tree, than to convict them of running over a cyclist, or another motorist. That's BS in my book.
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    Hi Crankin,

    My condolence to everyone in his family, to all his friends and to you and your husband. Life is precious and no matter how old we are and to die unexpectedly in such unfortunate circumstances, it doesn't make it any easier. To say that he had a wonderful full life, is to lessen the hurt we all feel. But it doesn't take away your pain.

    The gentleman was gracious, giving, and compassionate soul. And no amount of words can express the sorrow his friends he touched and people he touched.

    Understand too that you will have lots of strong emotions: sorrow, anger, emptiness... Be kind to yourself. This is all part of grieving. It just means that you really cared for the person.

    peace be with you,

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    So sorry for the loss of your cycling friend. There is no making sense of this kind of tragic situation...
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