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  1. #1
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    The Brooks imperials do have a cut out. If you are narrow, the B17 imperial should do you just fine. If the B17 doesn't work, Wallbike will take it back they have a 6 month return policy on their saddles.


    Or you can get the Sellanatomica saddle, which isn't as classy looking as the Brooks, but is waterproof. my husband wore one out after 30,000 miles.
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  2. #2
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    Another issue which effects all this and we need to be aware of is having your posture tilt you so far forward and down that it becomes more and more difficult to have weight on your sit bones at all- the weight shifts more towards your front bones and even your pubic bone.
    An extreme (and silly) example to illustrate this concept would be if you lie flat on your stomach in bed and are expecting your weight to be supported by your behind.
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  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl View Post
    Another issue which effects all this and we need to be aware of is having your posture tilt you so far forward and down that it becomes more and more difficult to have weight on your sit bones at all- the weight shifts more towards your front bones and even your pubic bone.
    An extreme (and silly) example to illustrate this concept would be if you lie flat on your stomach in bed and are expecting your weight to be supported by your behind.
    ROTFL! ah, we're witty this morning.
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    NY Biker, it sounds like we have similar saddle issues. I, too, am defaulting to a Bontrager Affinity. Not because it's ideal, but because it causes the fewest problems. I also thought that I couldn't use a cut-out, but discovered that my cut-out problems centered around "humped" cut-out edges like on the Terry Butterfly. I've tried other cut-out saddles with smoother cut-out edges that were better, but still not as good as the Bontrager for me.

    A couple of the other saddle that you might consider are the Terry FLX & Specialized Jett. The FLX is supposedly geared toward an aero riding position but wasn't awful for my more upright position. Still, I determined after about 1 hour of riding that it would probably contribute to soft tissue chafing for me on longer rides. The Jett again wasn't awful, but not as good as the Bontrager Affinity.

    I plan to try the SI Lady Diva with the channel, rather than the cut-out, next.
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  5. #5
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    Thanks everyone for your replies. They have given me lots to think about.

    I decided it made sense to try a Specialized saddle, since they're so easily available at local shops and they are pretty t-shaped. I bought a Lithia, in 145 mm since that's what the measuring tool recommended. I chose the Lithia because it was more t-shaped than the Jett and supposedly is designed for a more upright position. I looked at one of the mountain bike saddles that Muirenn mentioned, but it was very hard so I don't think I would like it.

    The store offered a 14-day return period, but due to lousy weather and being busy at work, I was not able to test it until day 15. So, anyone want to buy a 145 mm Lithia? Because it was very painful. I'm inclined to think the 155 mm version would not be good either, because I think pressure from the edge of the cutout caused problems.

    My LBS bike fitter is in Belgium right now for the Tour of Flanders (lucky him!!). Once he gets back, I will make an appointment to verify that my position on the bike does not need to be changed. And I will probably try the Affinity next, although I will feel really guilty if I buy and return yet another saddle at his store.

    In the meantime, I'm thinking of putting the Evoke back on the bike temporarily, so I can think more about what I do and don't like about it. I was able to do shorter rides on it last year without pain, and I can't say that about some of the saddles I've tried lately.

    If the Affinity doesn't work, I'll look into the SLR Lady Gel Flow and/or Diva, as well as Brooks.

    BTW, I saw an SI Turbomatic at the LBS last weekend. It is very firm.

    Thanks again!!!

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  6. #6
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    All your descriptions of how you ride and what you are looking for are screaming out for a Brooks.
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  7. #7
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    I'm still confused about which Brooks. The B-17 is 170mm, and the tall sides look uncomfortable even on the B-17 narrow. Also the cutouts on the Imperial versions look very rough, like they would pinch. I would really like to be able to actually look at some different models in person, but I don't know any shop around here that carries them. I just emailed a friend who has one to ask where he got it.

    Edit: it turns out my friend has the B17. So I will go have a look at it.

    The plot thickens...
    Last edited by ny biker; 04-03-2011 at 06:12 PM.

    - Gray 2010 carbon WSD road bike, Rivet Independence saddle
    - Red hardtail 26" aluminum mountain bike, Bontrager Evoke WSD saddle
    - Royal blue 2018 aluminum gravel bike, Rivet Pearl saddle

    Gone but not forgotten:
    - Silver 2003 aluminum road bike
    - Two awesome worn out Juliana saddles

 

 

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