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  1. #1
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    When I was in college I did the Adelle Davis thing and got myself royally scr*wed up. But I learned a lesson: all necessary nutrients are in balance in our body, and if we massively increase one or a few, we've created an effective deficiency in every other nutrient that balances with those.

    I do supplement a maintenance dose of calclum and magnesium, just because I sweat out a lot of those, and I get cramps and/or tics if I don't. But I keep an eye on it, because I know if I start taking a whole lot of calcium and magnesium, then I need more iron, and zinc, and copper, and, and, and.... there's really no limit once you start down the megadose road.

    If I've been sick or extra stressed or haven't been able to eat well for a while - or once or twice a year just to test my levels - I take a B-complex that's balanced on the basis of nutritional need. Solaray has a formulation. (It's low in folate, because the FDA regulates the amount.) When I start peeing out yellow B-2, then I know I'm topped back up to healthy levels and I stop taking it.

    Vitamin C, there's a feeling I get in my mucous membranes when I'm low on it, and especially in cold weather when raw vegetables and fruits aren't that good for me, I'll take that in pill form, too.

    If I need an extra anti-inflammatory boost, the Omega-3 supplement my sister recommended to me is Udo's Choice 3-6-9, and I've been really pleased with it. It has a nice nutty flavor. A tablespoon a day on breakfast cereal, on a salad, or in a smoothie. But I don't crave that nearly as often now that I'm eating nuts basically every day.

    Protein is something I tend to struggle with, too. I can get better meat in the winter than in the summer, so I've been eating more the past couple of months (particularly since I've been sick). If I were vegetarian, the only way I think I could get enough protein from real food is by basically eliminating grains. Which really wouldn't be a bad thing whatsoever, but it sure makes breakfast inconvenient.
    Speed comes from what you put behind you. - Judi Ketteler

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    I take a multi, balanced B-complex, B 12 sometimes and fish oil. I don't eat meat and it's harder for people over 50 to get B 12 from dietary sources.

    Oak, slight threadjack: how many gm protein do you feel you need per day? Or do you just go by how you feel?

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    I just go by how I feel. I really ought to start counting grams, I could probably do better.

    When I'm low on protein, I'm sorer longer after easier workouts, and I don't gain strength or heal as quickly. Back in the fall when I was in marathon training, my nails got so brittle that I literally could not cut them without them splintering (and I keep them very short regardless). I was downing piles of protein powder (about 20g/day from powder alone), eating beans pretty much every day, plenty of vegetables, occasional fish, dairy and eggs (like once or twice a week of each), and it just obviously wasn't nearly enough.

    When I've been sick it's a whole 'nother story. I just really, really crave meat to build myself back up. I think I would've eaten my husband's arm the other night if he hadn't been able to track down that steak for me.



    ETA: Read the labels on your B-complex and make sure it's really balanced. A lot of them say "balanced" on the label when what they mean is they've got, say, 50g of everything. That's like saying a garment fits because it's a cylinder the diameter of your hips... Solaray's formula is the only one I've found that's actually balanced based on the RDAs.
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    recent medical studies have indicated that most women do not get enough calcium and so suggest calcium supplements along with vitamin d to help with metabolizing the calcium. They have also pretty much confirmed the good benefits of Omega 3 oil. Because so much of our food unless eaten out of your own garden or farmyard, has been processed, or grown in less than fully natural methods which leads to foods generally not being as nutritionally complete, a daily multivitamin is pretty much a standard supplement, and vitamin b is for heart, circulation and red blood which all under go a certain amount of stress as a result of exercise. I take all of these, and in addition take 400 iu vitamin e, along with glucosamine chondroitin for my arthritic and discombobulated knees.

    As long as you aren't taking excessivly excessive to the point of self poisoning, your body will use the amount of vitamins it needs and will excrete the rest.

    The big question is whether your Dr. actually looks at your individual needs, health level, age, activity level etc. or is he/she just following the current line. I figure if the Dr. herself takes the same vitamins in roughly approximate amounts, then she probably knows what she's talking about.

    Good luck with it all.
    marni
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    I take 5,000 IU of Vitamin D every day (gel cap, dr.-prescribed when blood tests indicated a deficiency), and 2,000 IU of Omega 3 Fish Oil gel caps. I sometimes drink a GoodBelly probiotic drink - the little 2 oz vitamin-fortified one, and every other day or so I'll take two packets of Emergen-C in 24 oz. of water. I work in an elementary school library and I really do think this, and frequent hand-washing, helps me avoid the bazillion germs that come with 330+ kids.

    I also eat pretty well. Lots of fresh veggies and fruit, lean protein (had a buffalo burger today), Greek yogurt. I've foresworn fast food - yay, me!

    Except for the 80 pounds I can't seem to lose, I think I'm pretty healthy.

    Roxy
    Getting in touch with my inner try-athlete.

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    Surg - did your doc test your blood levels, or just quote you a standard line about supplements?

    I've got ridiculously low levels of vit D and iron (and previously B12, but I got that up to normal after years of heavy supplementation). So far, every time I get blood checks for the vit D and iron the doc tells me to add MORE. Those three are my only problematic levels, so that's all I supplement.

    I take huge doses of B12, vit D, and iron every day.

    Thank goodness for Costco...
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    I've taken a multivitamin for years (it's similar to ONe-a-Day). A little over a year ago I added 1,000 IU of D and 1,000 mg of C. I have never believed in megadoses of anything, but my doctor insisted I try the C for immunological issues and I added the D based friends' experiences. I feel great! This combo really seems to work for me.

 

 

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