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    I don't think she died. The front page of msnbc says that her surgeons are optimistic for her survival. A federal judge was killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abejita View Post
    I don't think she died. The front page of msnbc says that her surgeons are optimistic for her survival. A federal judge was killed.
    .... and a 9 year old kid Watching the President on MSNBC, 5 others are fighting for their lives.
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    I heard she was on Sarah Palin's "Hit List."
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    Putting the cross-hairs of a gun-sight over Gabrielle Giffords (and 20 other democrats) on your website is probably not the best move to make when you are hoping to run for President in 2012.

    Do we have any information on the motives of the shooter?
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    Thus far, apparently not, though I'm going to keep my guesses to myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owlie View Post
    Thus far, apparently not, though I'm going to keep my guesses to myself.

    I don't mean to politicize the board. Obviously Mrs Palin was not the nut to pull the trigger (and bring an automatic weapon with enough firepower to ....) but did he take her list and advice too literally? I don't know.

    Sarah Palin posted images of Rep. Giffords’ name and location in crosshairs on her Takebackthe20 website, which encourages getting rid of Democratic elected officials in Republican districts. Palin is no stranger to getting people riled up. She famously tweeted, “Commonsense Conservatives and lovers of America: “Don’t Retreat, Instead – RELOAD!”

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    People, please. This is America. Can we have discussion? Can we agree to disagree? Can we find some common ground instead of having to run for higher ground?
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    There are so many disturbing and sad things about this whole event....but what really struck me is that she was in her community trying to talk to her constituents when this happened. She was trying to do the work of a good congresswoman - being out there with those whom she represents. How many congressmen do this? Mine sure doesn't.

    I hope she and the others injured have a full and speedy recovery - and thinking of those who did not escape from the gunman with their lives.

    As far as Sarah Palin's Target List, which apparently uses gun sights on districts - this is appalling, no matter what side of the political spectrum you fall. She should take this down immediately (it should never have been designed as such but too late for that now) out of respect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry1976 View Post
    She was trying to do the work of a good congresswoman - being out there with those whom she represents. How many congressmen do this? Mine sure doesn't.
    Mine does! And we in his district sure appreciate it. Whenever congress is out of session he is right here holding public meetings, listening to his constituents. I've never gone but mean to someday.

    We need that kind of discourse in a Democracy I think. Not just between rep and constituent but between the people themselves.

    With an event like this will he and others continue?

    I now hear per MSN she is alive, responding to some verbal commands, still under anesthesia. And her husband has arrived there by NASA jet.
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    This reminds me too much of the gunman (inspired by Beck and O'Reilly) who went to a Unitarian church's childrens' service to kill religious liberals. (and succeeded)

    I don't recall Jesus advocating murder...
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    I don't know if this is correct but it's being reported that 4 elderly men took the automatic weapon armed 20 something gunman down

    Go elderly men!! My heroes.

    Following this on the boob tube. While there's no telling what went on in the mind of this obviously very troubled young man early indications are that he's very disturbed and might not so much a politically motivated. The Congresswoman's office was vandalized recently in response to her position on health care (for it). But it may well turn out that this was the action of a very troubled individual.

    Again, not to politicize the board but I think what is not said enough in the health care debate is that mental health care is health care. Access to it is life saving. Sometimes we could save is the individual effected and in other cases many others.

    If that's the case I hope he gets some care and finds some peace. He has changed the lives of many who died and even those who survived will never be the same.
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    ...and a nine-year-old...

    So sad.
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