P12 - randonneuring.

[indysteel]

Yep, am familiar with all of those roads - and those were the only two stores I could think of for controls so we are thinking alike I also did a route that I put together that went from the Whitestown area to Morse Reservoir, while you do have to cross a couple of busy roads all of the riding roads are very lightly traveled. Certainly some good thoughts, thanks! The store in Whitestown has limited hours of operation, but there are other ways to determine a control. I think you can even ask a question about something that is seen along the way, and I've found several unique sights that would serve well. hmmmmmmm

I've never run into a problem with their hours. I can see where it might be a problem for rides longer than 100k, but it's pretty easy to do a metric within your typical daylight hours, presumably when they're open.

I'm not as familiar with Morse. I think I've only ridden out there twice.

[Biciclista]

yeah, we had something like 6 hours and 48 minutes to do our ride. we finished in 6 hours and 5 minutes. My last 100k was close to 5 hours, but walking across ice really slows you down..

[Catrin]

I've never run into a problem with their hours. I can see where it might be a problem for rides longer than 100k, but it's pretty easy to do a metric within your typical daylight hours, presumably when they're open.

I'm not as familiar with Morse. I think I've only ridden out there twice.

That's true. I've been known to start quite early and Whitestown is close to where I typically started last year.

[indysteel]

That's true. I've been known to start quite early and Whitestown is close to where I typically started last year.

For early morning starts, you could head to Sheridan first and then to Whitestown. That's not to suggest there aren't other possible routes; I was just suggesting one that, in my mind and experience, would be pretty doable as a permanent, if you were so inclined to establish and maintain it.

[Catrin]

This is a great idea - and I am going to do it Am currently researching what I would need to do in order to establish/certify a permanent. Glad to hear that RUSA provides insurance free of charge for a permanent that owned by an individual RUSA member rather than a club.

Part of this is self-serving, yes, since I won't have to drive out of state to ride a sanctioned 100k route for the P12. HoweverI think it would be great to have SOMETHING in Indiana for RUSA members even if it isn't a full brevet. I still have the desire to do a full brevet series one day, but considering what happened last year I need to start with more modest goals and see what happens.

[indysteel]

You have my support. It's really a shame Indiana doesn't have a series. I wonder what it would take to generate some interest within the state to get a series started here. I wonder if CIBA and/or any of ther other local clubs or advocacy groups could at least explore whether there's any interest. I'd be curious other other states have gotten theirs off the ground.

[Catrin]

It would be interesting to know how many members of the Ohio Randonneurs Club live in Indiana - like me.

It will take some time to put this together, and there are recommendations on how much climbing should be in a particular route. Unsure at this point if the recommendations are just that or requirements. Obviously southern Indiana has enough topography for climbing, but it might be challenging to design a 100k route in my desired area to meet that recommendation. We will see, but I really do not want to go further afield for a 100k route as I want to be close to it.

This is going to be fun

[Biciclista]

completed my 5th 100k ride this month. have 7 more to go!