Knicker recommendations

**luv2cycle** · 01-30-2006, 10:05 AM

Does anyone know of any GOOD knickers with a chamois that can do a century? I own a pair of Sheila Moon's, but the chamois does not offer enough padding for the real long rides. I love my PI microcensor shorts - great chamois, and hate knee warmers (too much elastic). Any recommendations appreciated.

**Selkie** · 01-30-2006, 01:43 PM

PI Sugar Knickers have a light chamois, nothing like the microsensor shorts, though. Wouldn't want to wear them while riding a century. The Sheila Moon knee warmers don't have elastic, if you want to give them a try.

**slinkedog** · 01-30-2006, 02:15 PM

Hey Luv, I don't have the Shebeest knicker that they sell here on TE (I think it's the Pedal Pusher), but I do own a pair of the shorts with the same chamois. I think it would be substantial enough for a century. If you can find any Shebeest bottoms with the SheLastic Chamois, that's the same one that's in the Pedal Pusher. Love that chamois.

**DeniseGoldberg** · 01-30-2006, 02:45 PM

If you love your PI shorts, I suspect that you won't be happy with the Shebeest knickers. Just my own experience - I wear PI ultrasensors, tried several of the Shebeest shorts and just couldn't wear them. On in between days I add PI knee warmers and don't really notice any extra elastic.

Hope you find the right answer for you!

--- Denise

**maillotpois** · 02-04-2006, 03:18 PM

I just got a pair of the Ground Effects Witches Britches (they were the subject of another thread here with all the links and everything). I love them. Just tested them out on an 80 miler, and I am sure they would be great for a century.

The knees truly are warm! These are great knickers.

**yellow** · 02-04-2006, 03:35 PM

OK, when I get a real job, I'm getting me some of those Witches Britches.

I've been following this thread because I too am a knicker fan and am looking for the perfect pair. The Shebeest stuff doesn't seem to fit me well. The Sugar Knicker's chamois is not enough for a century. And I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate leg and knee warmers, elastic or no. I really like the chamois that is in the Sugoi Evolution short, and apparently they make a hard-to-find knicker that I may track down if I don't go for the Witches Britches.

Oh, BTW Maillotpois, what was the total USD damage?

**maillotpois** · 02-04-2006, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by yellow

Oh, BTW Maillotpois, what was the total USD damage?

I don't know. I threw away the evidence (bag w/customs label, receipt) so quickly that I didn't even look at the receipt! DH was kind of looking at them this morning, and I could tell the wheels were spinning and he was wondering if they were new - but he didn't ask. We have made a pact not to spend money right now. Oops.

I estimate they were in the $80 range including shipping. I will amortize them over many rides....

**yellow** · 02-04-2006, 04:11 PM

I'd happily pay $80 for a good pair. I think the Sugoi ones are $90.

Oh, believe me, I understand the pact not to spend $. We have one right now too. Used to be we didn't have to worry about it...but now we do. So, I have to wait until I get a job (we recently did an 800 mile relocation for HIS job) before I get my new knicks!

**Trek420** · 02-04-2006, 04:18 PM

I wore the PI knickers on AIDS ride last year, my butt was very comfy.

I also have Terry, REI, and some Castelli. Castelli's nice but the others while fine for training, casual or commute, I would not wear them on a century.

Knee warmers are popular and great for most folks, I have to keep my legs warm all the time so might as well wear the knickers.

http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=17198

Speaking of keeping knees warm, anyone use the embrocations? I have read they are good

http://www.torelli.com/record/record.shtml

**jobob** · 02-04-2006, 04:21 PM

Hey, warm knees are important ! Better $80-ish spent on a very useful piece of clothing, than the incalcuable amt spent on medicine, phys therapy and lost bike time if you messed up your knees.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Anything else you'd like for me to rationalize for you, MP?

Seriously, my knees were acting up a bit until fairly recently, and I'm finding that keeping them warm helps a lot. I bought a great pair of SportHill tights (no chamois - I wear them over my shorts) from TE which have worked superbly for my early am rides, but they're going to be overkill for daytime riding once it starts warming up a little. So I'm seriously looking into the Witches Britches for that in-between season.

Too bad TE doesn't carry them, but as Susan had explained on a different thread, there's no US distributor at the present time, and they don't choose to be a distributor. Oh well.

**snapdragen** · 02-04-2006, 04:28 PM

Got my Witches Britches about a week ago - tomorrow is their maiden flight....er..wearing. Price came to $79.11, about what you'd pay for a good pair of knickers in the US.

I'll report back tomorrow!

**SadieKate** · 02-04-2006, 04:32 PM

What's the link again and is there a pic of the chamois? Thanks, ma'am.

I love my Shebeest for mountainbiking but not so happy about a road century. The Terry chamois is a close 2nd so again only a mtbike or short road ride option. I like thin, flat chamois for mountainbiking because the chamois and the saddle have an ongoing tangle otherwise.

**snapdragen** · 02-04-2006, 04:40 PM

http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/produc...&category=WOM#

Danger - you may want to shop...

**SadieKate** · 02-04-2006, 04:41 PM

As long as I don't have to go to a mall, s'okay.

**SadieKate** · 02-04-2006, 04:47 PM

Ooh, I like the names, plus Toasty Pie has thumb loopies.

So, the sizing verdict. Snap and MP and et al, can you compare to the PI Ultra/Microsensor, Castelli or Shebeest sizing? Or anything other brand?

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