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  1. #1
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    I'm kind of sensitive to this for many reasons:

    1) Whatever happened to the 4th Amendment? You know, the one that says:

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    (bold mine)

    This seems like a textbook case of unreasonable search of my person. Any legal beagles here that have an opinion?

    2) I just finished radiation for breast cancer, blast it all. I really don't want or need any more.

    3) Speaking of radiation, people are getting radiation in their reproductive organs. This cannot be good for eggs, sperm or developing fetuses.

    4) I am not a touchy-feeley type of person. I don't have any desire to be groped. Nor do I wish my daughters to be groped. If I had sons, I wouldn't want strangers messing with their intimate parts. Just. Don't. Touch. Me.

    </rant>

    Sigh. We bought tickets to Seattle before this was announced. I really want to see my daughter, so I will go, but this will be the absolutely last time I fly.

    I'm so old that I remember when we used to feel sorry for the poor Russians because they didn't have the freedom to travel at will in their own country. My right to travel has just been curtailed. I really don't like it. (Hmmm, I guess my rant wasn't quite over, sorry)
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  2. #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomOnBike View Post
    I'm kind of sensitive to this for many reasons:

    1) Whatever happened to the 4th Amendment? You know, the one that says:

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    (bold mine)

    This seems like a textbook case of unreasonable search of my person. Any legal beagles here that have an opinion?

    2) I just finished radiation for breast cancer, blast it all. I really don't want or need any more.

    3) Speaking of radiation, people are getting radiation in their reproductive organs. This cannot be good for eggs, sperm or developing fetuses.

    4) I am not a touchy-feeley type of person. I don't have any desire to be groped. Nor do I wish my daughters to be groped. If I had sons, I wouldn't want strangers messing with their intimate parts. Just. Don't. Touch. Me.

    </rant>

    Sigh. We bought tickets to Seattle before this was announced. I really want to see my daughter, so I will go, but this will be the absolutely last time I fly.

    I'm so old that I remember when we used to feel sorry for the poor Russians because they didn't have the freedom to travel at will in their own country. My right to travel has just been curtailed. I really don't like it. (Hmmm, I guess my rant wasn't quite over, sorry)
    The argument is that you give up that right when you opt to get on an airplane. It's not all that different than giving up the right to bear arms on an airplane.

    I'm really torn about this whole issue.

    I know that the terrorists are totally laughing at us. Hell, most of the world is laughing at us...terrorists or not. This procedure is not doing anything but potentially making the public FEEL that flying is safer than it really is. And yes, both machines (backskatter and mmwave) pose potential health dangers.

    On the opposing side, flying is not a right, it's a privilage and as such, is subject to certain terms...and those terms can change as the industry sees fit. Again, not all that dissimiliar to getting a licence in order to drive... I don't like it, but then, I don't have to fly, either. But of course, TSA is not really the 'industry' but a function of the government and that's where my greatest frustration lies.
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    I don't find flying for work a privilege. I find it a pain in the...ask. I will happily drive anywhere I can for vacation.

    But seriously - it would take some government minion about 5 seconds to google enough about me to know where I am about 95% of the time, know all of my acquaintances, and probably track down my flight patterns. I'm obviously not in cahoots with any terrorist organization. If you want me to feel safer flying, show some indication that you're putting some thought and effort into your security measures.

    The TSA to me seems to be the (typically American) Wal-Mart approach to security.

 

 

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