Here's a nice thought to end this thread I guess.

One of the best comments, and repeated in a number of places about those videos from Holland and Denmark is you don't see any fat people riding those bikes!! I'm not sure if the fat people are the ones driving the cars or what, but I bet if were to look at stats for those two countries, you would see a much lower rate and overall numbers for obesity then the USA. They probably banned McDonalds there too!