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  1. #1
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    I am glad that you are both ok, and sorry that that happened however, I think in the case of young children, people walking dogs on leashes and squirrels, any encounter can very likely one with no guarantees.

    As the sort of mother who would let my child crawl too close to the fire because I knew he/she would only do it once, all I can say is that the experience was probably a very good learning experience for all three of you.

    Glad you are ok.
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  2. #2
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    I hit a little girl on a bike path too. she had run off of the bike path with the other little girls, but they were all still yelling at her to move.She was overwhelmed and confused and then moved back onto the bike path. I was going super slow, she jumped in front of me at the last minute and we both went down. I tweaked my back, she wet her pants and was holding her arm. I told the Girl's Inc person that was supervising them to get her to the ER for an arm x ray, but I doubt that she did. My motto now - children and dogs - unpredictable and dangerous! And I hate mixed use bike paths. Tokie

  3. #3
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    I am glad the child is ok.

    I love to ride the bike paths. But I've learned to bike on the weekdays when the trails aren't being used by family groups or during the dead of winter or on a real rainy/cold day. Years ago I was on a bike path in a nearby state park. I slowed down to 8 mph because there was a girl on a bike off the trail. She looked right at me then pedaled her bike crossways onto the trail and stopped, blocking the trail completely and still looking at me, so I either hit her or go off the path and take a tumble. I went off the path and took the fall. As I was getting up the mother came over to me, screaming in a frenzy, her face contorted in rage, spittle flying out of her mouth, eyes all bugged out, and yelled a lot of filthy words at me in front of her gaggle of children. I got back on my bike and rode away from her, figuring she must be mentally ill or mentally deficit in some way, continued to ride inside the park, and coming back on another loop, a good mile from the incident, there she is with her gaggle of children and starts screaming at me again, real gutter language. I found a park ranger and reported the lady. It is why I no longer ride the bike trails anywhere on a weekend.

    However the most fun bike trails I've found, complete with water faucets, porta potties and benches along the trails, is in Idaho around Ketchum, near Sun Valley. Lots of road cyclists on those trails, and the walkers are real respectful of the cyclists, and everyone seems to know the trail rules, like single-file to the right. One morning I was up at dawn to ride the trail between Hailey and Ketchum, and the trail was filled with cyclists commuting to work in Ketchum; it was a fantastic sight.

  4. #4
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    Rollie, I'm sorry that happened to you and so glad everyone's okay. It doesn't sound like you did anything wrong at all. Still I've found the only safe passing speed for pedestrians is 5 mph or less. I've read for motor vehicles that anything over a 15% speed differential is super dangerous, and IMO that's true for any traffic. 10 mph is 400 or 500% of a child's walking speed.
    Speed comes from what you put behind you. - Judi Ketteler

  5. #5
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    I have found children, dogs and squirrels do not respond to my bike bell. When I see any of those or people with ears buds or a cell phone in use I quickly slow down. Being in control of your bike is the only thing you can do with users who aren't aware of their surrounding. You did the right thing by stopping and making sure all parties were okay.
    Amanda

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  6. #6
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    Rollie,

    Don't feel guilt. Accidents happen. At least you're a bike and not a car...and that would have been a very different outcome.

    Hopefully Dad knows that he should have kept her on the "inside" particularly since there was other traffic coming the opposite direction.

    I've often had this same fear on local MUP's...but it's usually with the UNLEASHED dogs...now I have something else to ponder in my contingency planning...
    If you don't grow where you're planted, you'll never BLOOM - Will Rogers

  7. #7
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    The leashed dogs on my favorite MUP drive me nuts. Their owners let their leashes run out all the way, so there's a walking human on the right, but a darting-back-and-forth yap yap on a 20-foot lead running all over the road. Even if it's far to the left, I can't get around the leash safely. I try to yell "LEASH!" when I'm coming up on them, and most of the time they reel them back in in time, but I usually have to slow way down.

    I've been known to say something like, "Lady, I'm the slow cyclist out here. There's a bunch of big guys doing about 20 coming up fast behind me, and they don't call out," as I pass. There are a lot of really fast cyclists who work out around the lake, and they're not all observing the 15 mph speed limit.

    And young mothers who let their toddlers out of the jogging stroller to run around while they're talking on the phone. One of them got a panicked "Watch the baby!" from me when I was coming around a sharp curve and there she was, there her stroller was, and there this little boy was, about twenty feet farther around the curve in the middle of the path. I had to screech to a halt -- luckily I was on my mtb at the time. I wouldn't have had that kind of traction or control on my Ruby. I hope whomever she was talking to heard me scream.

    Foot traffic is just one of the hazards we have to learn to deal with. I wish sometimes that we could post our own Rules of the Road for people who seem to miss those giant signs at the beginning of the pathway.

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  8. #8
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    I'm glad you and the little girl are both okay. If it was that congested, dad should have been holding her hand and keeping an eye out IMO.
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  9. #9
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    As the parent of a 5 yr old I can say the Dad probably understood that you did everything you could. Accidents just happen and kids can be unpredictable. The good news is the little girl didn't get hurt and she probably learned a valuable lesson and will be more aware next time. It could have saved her from a worse collision down the road.

 

 

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