This sounds like the Alps to me... or my sister's neighborhood in East Tennessee. I guess the point is that "steep" is going to change depending on a person's abilities AND the terrain they are accustomed to.
Thankfully I love challenges, so that helps me to hang in on those hills that I am slowly going up...while everyone passes me on them
Back to my original post on this thread, I know the ride leader who posted that description of the ride, and he has ridden all over the country. So, for him, they probably ARE ripples, bumps, and the very occasional hill...





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