Hot 48 miles and dehydration

[OakLeaf]

C., glad it seems to be working better for you, although of course it's been MUCH cooler, and we're also all a bit better acclimated to the heat than we were a couple of weeks ago.

I believe that HEED is designed to have enough electrolytes for shorter workouts. For longer ones, Hammer recommends Perpeteum (or however it's spelled) because HEED does not provide enough electrolytes beyond 2 hours (or something like that). Of course, HEED supplemented with shot bloks should have been fine had you been eating them.

Nutrition labels: HEED, Perpetuem. Keeping in mind that the data for Perpetuem is for two scoops, vs. one scoop for HEED (hate that!), you can see that they're just different products, but while Perpetuem has more sodium and calcium, it actually has LESS magnesium than HEED and no potassium at all.

For more balanced long-workout electrolyte replacement and/or if you don't like the soy protein that Perpetuem has, they sell Endurolytes in powder and pill form.

That's what I really hate about Hammer products. I like the way HEED and Hammer Gel sit on my stomach - better than most anything I've tried. I of course like how they're widely available at retail. I really, really dislike having to buy three different products from them.

[Catrin]

C., glad it seems to be working better for you, although of course it's been MUCH cooler, and we're also all a bit better acclimated to the heat than we were a couple of weeks ago.




Nutrition labels: HEED, Perpetuem. Keeping in mind that the data for Perpetuem is for two scoops, vs. one scoop for HEED (hate that!), you can see that they're just different products, but while Perpetuem has more sodium and calcium, it actually has LESS magnesium than HEED and no potassium at all.

For more balanced long-workout electrolyte replacement and/or if you don't like the soy protein that Perpetuem has, they sell Endurolytes in powder and pill form.

That's what I really hate about Hammer products. I like the way HEED and Hammer Gel sit on my stomach - better than most anything I've tried. I of course like how they're widely available at retail. I really, really dislike having to buy three different products from them.

I don't use Perpetuam - I like the Heed for rides <2 hours. For longer rides - or very hot ones - I also use Accelerade (2 scoops for one bottle as well). For some reason Perpetuam doesn't sit on my stomach quite as well as Accelerade - and I don't mind the taste when it gets warm. It seems to work for me. Hammer Gel is fine, but I prefer Cliff Shot Blocs for ease of use and I don't get my fingers sticky. Accelerade has whey protein rather than soy and I like that better.

For now this combination seems to be working for me - though the real test will be what happens the next very hot day...

BTW - when I went riding Friday afternoon - there for the first mile or so I almost wanted warmer clothes on! It passed