I'll take it back on topic. . . Cindy, I printed the schedule for Marty as I would like to get her down there for one. Her son's SO lives in Berkeley and rides so I think this would be a good plan. However, the schedule gives a rating system for terrain at the bottom of the page, but none of the rides use it. Am I just not seeing it? I have to know this info as Marty is just starting on hills and doesn't use cleats yet. This is a critical factor.

Matter of fact, which ride tis the flattest and the closest to us? I gotta get her and Candy's rears in gear. Good news is that Candy has finally figured out the benefits of a light road bike over the sluggishness of a heavy hybrid.

Sadie "blind as a bat" Kate