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Quote Originally Posted by vness View Post
according to the ISM website:
The saddles are designed for the rider to place all of his/her weight on the sit bones. As with all nose less saddles, the ISM saddles place pressure on the sit bones. The sit bones are covered with muscle, which must be conditioned before you achieve maximum comfort. The amount of time for muscle conditioning varies amongst riders. The doctors have compared the muscle soreness to a weight workout and no damage is being done to the body.

Cobb only uses the imprecise term "sit bones", never ischial tuberosities. Considering people ride these saddles on the tips, everyone is probably on their rami - no one has ITs that closely spaced!

I've tried to like this saddle but can't. One (fixable?) reason is that the contact between the tips and my body traps the edge of the chamois - the stitching digs into my skin that covers the rami, right where the leg joins the body. (Sorry if TMI.)

The different Adamo models all share the same lastic base, just he padding and covers are different. The Century's extra width is just the foam gel hanging over the sides but really works - it feels like a wider base to me. The gel on the Century is a big improvement overr the hard foam on the Road and Race versions, at least to me. This is opposite a normall saddel (where gel is worse than hard), because there's so much pressure: when I'm sitting on the tips all my weight on the saddle is only spread over a few square centimeters.

If you like, give it a try.

hope this helps,
thank you for the info... yes, everything helps :)

But that's wasn't a quote from Cobb - it was off the ISM website. The Adamo was designed by Steve Toll... and they do go on to say that one of the biggest adjustments is soreness on the sit bones themselves. That said, it's obvious one must also be on the rami.

What you wrote about the problem you have does make some sense. And no, not TMI at all... we do have to be specific here :)

I always shied away from this saddle because it looked so wide in the front and I've never had a problem with the nose of a saddle anyway, so I didn't get it. I guess I still don't.

I can't decide whether to try it now or try something without a cutout and a larger nose first... just to see if part of the problem's been the cutout itself. That said, I have a feeling I may find a wide nosed saddle, well, wide! I have heard that many pull the ends of the Adamo together to narrow it out.

as I wrote earlier, this is very frustrating. I'd probably not mind dealing with this if it weren't right in the middle of the season. I live in florida, so I ride year round anyway, but right now my rides are only getting more and more competitive. I know I need to do something, just not sure what! I'm even still wondering about that Prologo women's saddle, simply to see what no cutout would do, and the nose is moderate.

so you're still riding yours? and you ride regular road bars? if you read my other rant, you saw I had some other questions... like can you sit up? I've read so many different things about getting used to this saddle. Do I sound as much like an idiot as I feel?

I will drive myself crazy over this. I guess I'll be contacting the poor guy who did my bike fit, as he rides & fits Adamos. I'll ask about getting fit on one, though he's pretty far away. I'll have to do any tweaking on my own and then go back and drive him crazy LOL

this is what 2 days off the bike does to me!! I'll go get 'bit' again in the morning and then see what I have to say! But at least I'll have my ride :))

thanks again
namaste,
v