I finally got home and checked it out. Wow, skinny is right! I think it's funny because a friend of mine who races is always talking about how he wants to lose weight so he can be faster, but he's already practically skin and bones. Anyway, I emailed him to say-- this is why you shouldn't want to lose anymore weight- it's gross how skinny these guys are. To which he replied, grossly beautiful in my eyes...hmmm, I'll never get the racer mentality But to each their own.