Yes, Library Girl, EXACTLY!!!

I rang the guy at bi-saddle in desperation because there was no hope I'd ever maintain my marriage and my cycling if I rode in that darned stock saddle that came with the Avail. It hurt after 5 miles, let alone 50! I couldn't even do 50. I got off the bike swearing at the saddle!

Okay, on the hands problem.... I tried out the Avail at a bike shop and said it was too much pressure on my hands. They turned the stem upside down or something? And there are some stem risers there, too. I can't remember but anyway that fixed it completely. I'll try to find out exactly and then post again because I really love my Avail now. I used to have a hybrid Trek WSD and I like the avail more now....but it did take a new seat and something happening to the handlebar position.