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    Cliff's notes on article #1-

    "Ultimately it was just a matter of, 'Well ... it has to be drawn somewhere,' " Tosteson says. "And as I recall, it was very hot in the meeting room, and people were in shirt sleeves and, you know, it was time to kind of move on, if you will. And, I can't quite frankly remember who it was who stood up and drew the picture and said, 'Well, let's just do this.' "

    So there in the hotel room someone literally stood up, drew a line through a graph depicting diminishing bone density and decreed: Every woman on one side of this line has a disease.

    Then a new question arose: How do you categorize the women who are just on the other side of that line?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen View Post
    So there in the hotel room someone literally stood up, drew a line through a graph depicting diminishing bone density and decreed: Every woman on one side of this line has a disease.

    Then a new question arose: How do you categorize the women who are just on the other side of that line? [/COLOR]
    The women just on this side of the line would have what's called a "subclinical" condition. Possibly/probably experiencing problems already but not meeting the official criteria for clinical diagnosis. A good doctor should be willing to treat subclinical patients.

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    As long as everyone's agreed that "osteopenia" is a subclinical condition, which is what's being discussed. A good doctor also should not insist on treating asymptomatic patients with subclinical test results, and especially should not insist on powerful medications as a first line of treatment for those patients.
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    Sub-clinical only because they were hot and tired and wanted to go to Happy Hour at the hotel.
    Free roast beef buffet that night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zen View Post
    Sub-clinical only because they were hot and tired and wanted to go to Happy Hour at the hotel.
    Free roast beef buffet that night.
    Is subclinical like subversive?

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    Bone loss & menopause

    My doc told me that bone loss accelerates the first three years of menopause. That is one reason why HRT is often prescribed.
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    Osteopenia

    I was diagnosed with osteopenia about 5 years ago, and I've taken Evista for the last 4 years. After looking over the reviews at Amazon, I just ordered Better Bones, Better Body : Beyond Estrogen and Calcium by Susan Brown. Some time ago I read that cyclists and swimmers have the worst bone density. My personal belief is that it is because neither activity is a weight-bearing exercise, and you lose calcium during both through sweat. I buy a lot of packets of Propel with calcium, and use that for my water bottles, under the logic that if I'm sweating away some calcium, at least I can put some of it back.

 

 

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