Found my kayak. The one.

[NoNo]

That's puuuuurty! Happy paddling

[tulip]

Soooooo...which ones ARE you selling??

[Cataboo]

thanks everyone! I was out on the water with her for about 6 hours yesterday. I need to go buy some stuff to replace her decklines and such.

The tempest 165 gets to stay around for another year or so as R's 2nd boat. If he ever finds a good price on a p&h cetus LV,the point 65 XP is going:





Avatar's gone. Kevlar CD caribou is gone. prijon barracuda is gone. tempest 170 gone.

Zen - unless I get into racing, this thread probably won't have any more bumps. There is a limited selection of really nice good low volume high end boats for lighter paddlers - most LV boats are just cut down versions of the normal sized boats that have bad compromises. So as far as I'm concerned,for my paddling styles and needs - I've got probably 2 of the best boats for me - 1 playful day boat and 1 long fast touring/expedition boat... Now, would I want something light in kevlar instead of the fiberglass I have? The point 65 x-lite is basically my vela in kevlar and about 25 lbs lighter... That i might consider if I ever see it used at a good price. But I think most people with that boat probably won't ever give it up - and kevlar is harder to repair than fiberglass. My boats are "british heavies" - basically british boats designed to paddle along the rocky shores/islands around Britian... and there is some advantage in a fiberglass boat that you can beat around a bit like you can do a plastic boat without worrying about it, even though it makes for a heavier boat.

[Zen]

I already want a lighter boatbut it will never happen, just can't afford it.

[7rider]

Geez. T and I took the boats out on the South River yesterday.
I felt like my Dagger was dragging a sea anchor behind me the whole time! Talk about slow and ponderous. And then I come here and read what looks like a catalog for sleek zippy boats.
If you ever feel like your latest isn't {insert some word for light, fast, high-end, or all of the above, here} enough for you, let me put you in my boat.

[colby]

Geez. T and I took the boats out on the South River yesterday.
I felt like my Dagger was dragging a sea anchor behind me the whole time! Talk about slow and ponderous. And then I come here and read what looks like a catalog for sleek zippy boats.
If you ever feel like your latest isn't {insert some word for light, fast, high-end, or all of the above, here} enough for you, let me put you in my boat.

No kidding - we have a couple of 10' plastic Daggers that were great for compromise entry level kayaking, touring around the lake, swimmer tracking, not hauling butt or anything. We didn't realise what we didn't have until we went on a kayaking tour in tandem kayaks... boats that track, boats that are sleek, boats that carry weight, boats that go zoom zoom zoom (and our marriage survived). Seeing these pictures just makes me want to go back out to the San Juans and tour again - but still probably in someone else's fast, well-tracking, well-packed boats. Very awesome.

[Cataboo]

7 - if you ever want help convincing DH that you guys want sea kayaks, you can come try mine. Although, he's pretty tall - i think the point 65 xp is the only one that'd fit him (the silhouette has the bulkhead moved back up front for shorter people so that there's more room to haul stuff.)

I've never paddled shorter than 14' - and truthfully, I'm not sure I could! It'd be like getting on a walmart bike, I intellectually know that they work and can move people and many many people do use them... but I would just rather not ride. I have to stop at 18' long for the kayaks, 'cause anything longer is longer than the garage I'm storing themin. I used to row sculls in high school - so kayaks still feel slow to me.