Saddle - inconsistent discomfort

[Catrin]

What is the difference between a Brooks 17 and the 17S?

As mentioned in an earlier thread under "new riders" I started having inconsistent discomfort with my Brooks last week, but last night and tonight it was nothing but consistent. Tonight I tried lubrication, applied it directly the the chamois. There was so much tingling from the cream that I honestly can't say what the saddle felt like for the first 10 miles...

For the SECOND 10 miles, however, the discomfort was very apparent and it focused on my girly bits - more toward the front but by the end of the ride all of my soft tissues were complaining. I couldn't figure out why this was suddenly a problem, it is getting worse the longer I ride.

Then it dawned on me, there were so many fitting issues with this bike that prior to the reconfiguration of my LHT, I literally could not ride it longer than 5 miles at a time. So of course I didn't notice any problems because I was having a lot more pain in other places.

I also realized that my saddle has this stamped on it:

"Brooks
Ladies Standard
B17S"

If this is a standard B-17, should that 'S' be there? Do I have the saddle I think I do?

My Bontrager feels better than this did tonight...but perhaps the Brooks is still breaking in?

[indysteel]

Tingling? What kind of chamois cream are you using? I can't say that I'ver ever experienced that! I also don't bother with putting it on the chamois; I apply it directly and, at least personally, get better results.

Doesn't the "S" designation on the Brooks refer to the women's version?

[Catrin]

Tingling? What kind of chamois cream are you using? I can't say that I'ver ever experienced that! I also don't bother with putting it on the chamois; I apply it directly and, at least personally, get better results.

Doesn't the "S" designation on the Brooks refer to the women's version?

I got a couple of samples from DZ Nuts and didn't realize that both samples were not of their women's version (dznuts bliss), but one was of their men's versions (dz nuts). By the time I realized this is was too late... I had heard that the men's version tingled but that doesn't quite describe it I hadn't used cream of any kind before so was experimenting.

That could be, I just have the understanding that they have two versions of the B-17 for women. That doesn't mean that I am correct though

If nothing else I will take it back to Nebo (probably Sunday). Jonathan did put the saddle back in the original position that my first fitter had it in - but THAT was when I had road bars... My body position is quite different now, but I don't know if that explains the discomfort.

[BleeckerSt_Girl]

Yes, the "B17S" is the short-nosed 'ladies version'. I used to have that B17S saddle, then changed to the regular B17 and liked it way better because i could move it 1 1/2" further back on its rails than the S model, thus helping my center of gravity problem on my other bike.
Eventually I wound up getting the B68 (not the B68S) because the B17 was not quite wide enough in back for my very wide sit bones. The B68 fits me perfectly.

Can only speak for myself, but when i don't use any lube that's when I get that kind of discomfort up front. I use simple hypo-allergenic hand cream. Cheap and not greasy. Works for me!

[Catrin]

Yes, the "B17S" is the short-nosed 'ladies version'. I used to have that B17S saddle, then changed to the regular B17 and liked it way better because i could move it 1 1/2" further back on its rails than the S model, thus helping my center of gravity problem on my other bike.
Eventually I wound up getting the B68 (not the B68S) because the B17 was not quite wide enough in back for my very wide sit bones. The B68 fits me perfectly.

Can only speak for myself, but when i don't use any lube that's when I get that kind of discomfort up front. I use simple hypo-allergenic hand cream. Cheap and not greasy. Works for me!

Thanks for this BleeckerSt Girl, so I was incorrect - that is good to know. I will hold off on going back to the fitter and try applying the lube more directly next time and see if that helps. I think that I have a container of pure shea butter around here somewhere... I am also going to remeasure my sit-bones just in case. I've had that question before whether my original measurements are correct.

I also don't have the saddle I thought I had, but perhaps I can make this work.