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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by katherine View Post
    @ Nerdgirl. I think we largely were on topic, we just disagreed with the implied premise of your original post that dh is more aggressive than xc.

    And thanks for the body armor recomendations, I keep thinking I should really think about some before I ride some of the gnarlier parts of Sedona next winter and spring.

    DH IS more aggressive than XC, why is everyone getting so worked up about that? Faster, bigger, steeper harder, what is there to argue with?

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    I find MY mtb discussion needs are met much better over there. Nothing personal ladies,
    Well lovely for you, thanks for sharing.
    Next time I'll make sure I do my part in keeping your threads at 0 responses for the sake of being absolutely 100% on topic
    Yes, the scenery from the high road is so much nicer.
    DH IS more aggressive than XC, why is everyone getting so worked up about that? Faster, bigger, steeper harder, what is there to argue with
    Yes your car is faster than my bike going up the mountain, it is also of course harder to ride in the same direction which water flows.
    "I think it has done more to emancipate women than anything else in the world. It gives women a feeling of freedom and self-reliance. I stand and rejoice every time I see a woman ride by on a wheel...the picture of free, untrammeled womanhood." Susan B Anthony

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    Oi

    OI..

    FIrst off, don't attack Irulan..she's been here longer than many of you have & is a wealth of info. I wondered where you'd ventured to..

    Second..Thanks for making someone NOT welcome here...

    I too think i'll take my mtn biking discussions to other forums...It's mainly just "roadies" who think that fire road is exciting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycanuck View Post
    OI..

    FIrst off, don't attack Irulan..she's been here longer than many of you have & is a wealth of info. I wondered where you'd ventured to..

    Second..Thanks for making someone NOT welcome here...

    I too think i'll take my mtn biking discussions to other forums...It's mainly just "roadies" who think that fire road is exciting...
    Um...I don't see why the length of forum membership should mean a darn thing. If someone wants to play "holier than thou" "you aren't worthy to post in my threads" they can get it right back as far as I'm concerned.

    Also, no one has even replied to Irulan, so pretty darn hard to be attacking her

    You want to take mountain biking (or any other) discussions elsewhere then more power to you. The second part of that comment is completely unnecessary. First, who cares if someone thinks fire-road is exciting. Maybe it is for them; they are on a bike, don't shoot it down. Second, the implication is there that if you are riding XC you are just some boring fool that's riding nothing but fire-road that they should be able to ride with their eyes closed. Couldn't be farther from the truth, and yea, I find it belittling and insulting.

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    All Bikes Are Good

    I think that phrases like aggressive, harder, faster, etc can be difficult terms, they imply that one ride/style/woman is more or less of something than another. This is sometimes problematic because one would hope that we could appreciate each other as distinct human beings, who are we to say that a middle aged woman taking up mountain biking on fire roads after raising three kids and beating breast cancer is more or less a mountain biker than a teenager flying down the trial on a huffy, or a racer with a long history of wins and the latest tricked out fs ride? I think that it is the context of your ride which matters as much as the content.
    And props to you ladies who do downhill, at least from the guys I know it can be a hell of a boys club, you must put up with some annoying crap. I'm sorry that you haven't found as much support here as you should have. Hopefully this is an exception, not the rule.
    And back to the original topic, on the subject of gear for nasty trails, I've found that Terry shorts are my least favorite, they stain and rip, mountain biking gear should not hold onto mud stains, I really like Harlot the material seems bomb proof, and the lengths are longer, but I wish there were more pockets.
    "I think it has done more to emancipate women than anything else in the world. It gives women a feeling of freedom and self-reliance. I stand and rejoice every time I see a woman ride by on a wheel...the picture of free, untrammeled womanhood." Susan B Anthony

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    Is there something wrong with saying that I don't get my discussion needs met here? TE is not the be-all and end-all of mountain biking discussion, at least for me. I figured out a long time ago that instead of trying to shape a board into what I thought it should be, or have expectations that weren't being met, it was lots easier and more pleasant to find a board that fit me. It's a lot less frustrating and aggravating, too.

    I said, "I don't get MY discussion needs met here", and tried to offer a direct answer to the OP. I made personal statement about my experience. I didn't judge or attack any of you, or your version of mountain biking, and frankly don't need to be attacked for stating what my experience has been.


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    This is the most ridiculous thread I've ever seen here.

    Reminds me of my 20-something sons seeing who can piss into the pool from the top deck.

    Exactly why I don't participate in other forums.

    I'm really glad nerdgirl took her bike and went home. Her energy was too "aggro" for me.

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    woosies

    I thought nerdgirl was normal.. and represented what you'd see on the trails.

    Yet again, the posters on TE frighten more people away. Good going!

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    If you have to be that nasty to be a mountain biker, well then, maybe why that's I am not one. I totally own up to not being aggressive enough and scared to death of most of that stuff.
    But really, I can't believe all women mountain bikers have that attitude.

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    I have been trying not to respond to this because it has degenerated so much. When I first read the op, I felt my hackles go up. I am a mt biker, I race on a mt bike team. I am a very aggressive rider, but I do not down hill. I took offense at the insinuation that because I do not jump off cliffs, I am not an aggressive rider.

    I think we got off track with the word aggressive. If the original post had been title "Downhill riders", I think much of this could have been avoided.

    When I went back to reread after a few posts, it was not offensive at all in light of what was being asked, when I thought about what was being asked.

    She was looking for fellow adrenaline junkies.....nothing wrong with that.

    And it was a wicked thread drift.

    Nerdgirl, don't be chased off by misunderstanding and a wicked thread drift.

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    I can't stop grinning at "aggro".
    If I could only figure out how to fit it into conversation (or convo)

    I couldn't find my oven mitts this time.
    2008 Trek FX 7.2/Terry Cite X
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycanuck View Post
    I thought nerdgirl was normal.. and represented what you'd see on the trails.

    Yet again, the posters on TE frighten more people away. Good going!
    I will miss nerdgirl

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    she's out there on mtb forums, playing with the boys, her stated preference.
    If I go to a group ride and find I don't care for the dynamics of the group, I don't demand they do things according to me. I try to remain cordial and gracious (stop that snickering) and either don't return or return, relax a bit, and go with the flow.
    Last edited by Zen; 06-15-2010 at 12:26 PM.
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