Running---Jogging

[TsPoet]

Interesting question and answers. I'll be getting out my HR monitor for tonight's run.

[GLC1968]

I did something similiar, but I dropped to a walk when the HR got up...walked until it recovered, and then jogged a little more, then walked, then jogged, etc. It was very annoying at first because my HR would 'recover' very quickly, but then my it would also skyrocket quickly so my intervals were tiny!

I actually eventually abandoned the process and just followed a couch to 5K walk/run training plan that did it by minutes (instead of HR). I really like martinkap's concept of just running very, very slowly. That makes a ton of sense to me now (after the fact) because for me, walking and running don't use a lot of the same muscles and I often felt like the walking wasn't helping my body at all. Running super-duper slow makes more sense from a physiological point of view.

For running, my cardiovascular fitness has now (after 5 months of this) outpaced my lower body's ability. I ache long before I feel like my heart/lungs need a break!

[Catrin]

This is a lot of good food for thought, I had wondered why my HR was so high since it is improved so much for other activities....and forgot the obvious - cycling, and spinning, is still a seated activity.

So I will try to be much more patient with myself, and focus on trying to run below a target heart rate - obviously I can't let it remain at 170...

Yesterday I jogged/ran until I had to stop, then walked a lap or two, and did the same a few times. I will try the super-slow process mentioned here...and will talk to my trainer about it so he won't be perplexed when he seems me running at such a slow speed

[Red Rock]

This very same situation has happened to me. I have been out for about 2 weeks with the HR at 170. Only on my last run was I able to feel like I could "control" the HR. So I need to do the super slow run too.

Perhaps we will all be great runners in the end.

Red Rock

[Catrin]

We could start the "Super-Slow Joggers Club"

[Crankin]

You know, even though I have stopped the running (at least until I get back from my cycling trip), I think the slow jogging was what worked better for me than run-walk. Even with taking off a couple of months from running, when I started again in April, I could easily run 3 miles, but at a slow speed (5.2-5.5 mph). My natural running pace seems to be about 5.5-5.8. It was a push to get to 6, which is about a 9:50 mile. That's where my breathing gets a bit labored. Usually,my legs hurt way long before I feel winded.
I am a fast walker and can do a 14-15 minute mile. But that seems separate from running. I do take short walking breaks on longer runs (which for me is above 4 miles).
Good luck, Catrin!

[nscrbug]

You know, even though I have stopped the running (at least until I get back from my cycling trip), I think the slow jogging was what worked better for me than run-walk. Even with taking off a couple of months from running, when I started again in April, I could easily run 3 miles, but at a slow speed (5.2-5.5 mph). My natural running pace seems to be about 5.5-5.8. It was a push to get to 6, which is about a 9:50 mile. That's where my breathing gets a bit labored. Usually,my legs hurt way long before I feel winded.
I am a fast walker and can do a 14-15 minute mile. But that seems separate from running. I do take short walking breaks on longer runs (which for me is above 4 miles).
Good luck, Catrin!

Not to be "nit-picky" here, but isn't 6mph equal to a 10 minute mile? I know that's how it is on the treadmills at my gym. Infact, sometimes it comes out to a bit more than a 10 minute mile for the first 1 or 2 miles...then, usually by the time I hit the 3rd mile...my time is right at 30 minutes.

[Crankin]

I thought so, too. But, I have a brand new treadmill and when I crank it up to 6 mph, the pace is always 9:50 or 9:52 (can't remember). Generally, I look at 6 mph as a 10:00 minute mile.
Whatever; all I know is that I feel way different between 5.8 and 6.0, although outside, the difference is less apparent. I also live in a hilly area, so I do slow down going up the 5-% grades.

[Bike Chick]

We could start the "Super-Slow Joggers Club"

I would definitely meet the membership requirements but I figure if we stick with it we will eventually progress to the "Super-Strong Runners Club." My goal is to run a 10 minute mile and finish a 5K under 30 minutes.