Quote Originally Posted by OakLeaf View Post
There are some streets I would never, ever ride on in my areas, and having visited Indianapolis Motor Speedway a few times, I know there are streets in that area I would never, ever ride on, either (except as part of a large group such as a Critical Mass/Critical Manners/Ride of Silence demonstration, charity parade, or the like). I'm a staunch vehicular cyclist, but I value my life, too.
Yep - then you know what I mean. I live less than a mile from the Motor Speedway and I can't get to the coveted country roads from my apartment without going down THOSE roads.

Of course I have only been on real roads twice now with my bike -

Melalvai, there are several of those offered here this summer, and am certainly going to take one of them