I feel like you do. I do not ride fast, but have good endurance. So I often finish with everyone else, but am less tired, etc. I guess what bugs me is that they seem to not even want to try a little. It also bugs me that they are touting the miles to people without the intention of even doing the miles. Additionally they keep asking me to help them train and then don't follow thru on their own. One time it took us 6 hours to ride 38 miles, I was exasperated. I wanted to train and wound up baby sitting, cuz they kept stoppping and they didn't want to pedal. There were times were this one gal would not even try to pedal up a very small 50 foot hill, very small I might add. She got off her bike and walked up.