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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathi View Post
    Wow, good for them. I think Divas/SG are a good match. Sorry I can't be there.

    I hear you, it seems silly to drive to Boulder when there are shops here. I moved to the wrong town, Divas and SG are my favorite shops.
    Not silly at all!!! It's quite possible I'll have to move to Cali if I stay in this field and I'm already contemplating the two possible outcomes. 1) I fly to CO every time I need a bike shop (and try to consolidate needs) 2) find a new field and stay here!

    Yes, stay in a town because of the bike shop, LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartianDestiny View Post
    Not silly at all!!! It's quite possible I'll have to move to Cali if I stay in this field and I'm already contemplating the two possible outcomes. 1) I fly to CO every time I need a bike shop (and try to consolidate needs) 2) find a new field and stay here!

    Yes, stay in a town because of the bike shop, LOL!
    But, if you were here in Boulder you'd probably have 3 new bikes in 2 years like me too!!!!

    It's hazardous to your paycheck!

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    That's my problem, I don't have a paycheck, I'm retired. And I also spend way too much at Divas on ski gear.

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    Yikes, have to leave this wonderful state and SG? How awful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathi View Post
    Yikes, have to leave this wonderful state and SG? How awful!
    I know!!! I've got 3 years to figure it out though. (maybe Chris will give me a job, LOL)

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    Maybe he'll expand like Divas did and open a shop in Denver. You could be his manager.

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    OK - I'm a guy whose wife uses a 650c bike and wanted some decent tires for doing a bit of cx and winter commuting. You all have found out that no one makes them. So...I converted some 700c to 650c. It's not hard but takes some patience.

    Here's how to do it. Not sure if this will take multiple posts or not.

    Find some not too knobby cross tires like Specialized Speedmax. Too lumpy and the tire won't clear the brake stays.

    Tools and stuff needed are scissors, Dremel type rotary tool (get one at Harbor Freight sometimes for free). Hot glue and gun, Metric box nut with tangs for #3 metric stainless steel screw. Barge (or equal) rubber cement. Some fabric - I used some from a nylon grocery bag. Phillips screw driver. Model saw or maybe Xacto blade. I like the model saw because I won't likely cut myself with it. A power drill and a 7/64 drill bit. See photos 1 - 4. Click image for larger version. 

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    So - pick a tire and cut it in half. Use the Dremel to cut the wire bead - both sides - and use the scissors for the rest. See photo 5 - 7. Click image for larger version. 

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    Take a 650c rim and slide the cut tire onto it. Overlap the tire ends and slide them together ALL the way so that the bead is inside the rim. Mark the point where the inner tire end entered into the outer end. Photos 8 and 9. Click image for larger version. 

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    Remove the tire and cut the inner tire's bead again at that point (both sides, of course) with the Dremel. Trim off the bead with the scissors. Photos 10 - 12 Click image for larger version. 

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    Cut off all but around two inches of the soon to be denuded bumps tire section. Trim the bumps off the inside tube (the section without the bead now) using the model saw or Xacto or whatever you want. You only need to trim the bumps from a couple of inches. You could get away without trimming anything but it makes for a better fit. Then, if you are a bit of a perfectionist, flatten out the remaining bits with the Dremel. Photos 13 - 17 Click image for larger version. 

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    See next post for part two

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    700c to 650c conversion Part 2

    Cut off all but around two inches of the soon to be denuded bumps tire section. Trim the bumps off the inside tube (the section without the bead now) using the model saw or Xacto or whatever you want. You only need to trim the bumps from a couple of inches. You could get away without trimming anything but it makes for a better fit. Then, if you are a bit of a perfectionist, flatten out the remaining bits with the Dremel. Photos 13 - 17 Click image for larger version. 

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    Fit the two ends together so that the two sets of cut bead ends touch. Then, glue the two ends together using hot glue. Hot glue is great because it can be remelted if you make a mistake and stays flexible. I just put hot glue on the denuded tread and then reheated it with the heat gun before fitting the tire sections together again. Photos 18 - 22 Click image for larger version. 

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    Put a 650c tube into the incomplete tire and fit it onto a 650c rim. It's not very neat looking, yet. Make sure the bead is inside the hooked rim and inflate the tire with about 10 lbs. pressure. If it's too loose, then take it off, reheat it and slide the two sections together more tightly. You may need to cut some bead off if you made it too loose to start. Photos 23 - 24 Click image for larger version. 

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    It fits OK. Deflate it, remove the tire and tube. reinforce the seams using cut pieces of nylon cloth (or cotton or whatever) glued into the inside of the tire with the Barge cement. Cover the seems at the butt ends of the two beads and the end of the tire overlaps. Photos 25 - 26 Click image for larger version. 

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    Let the glue dry for an hour or so. Use the spare time to try and remove all the glue from your fingers. Good luck with that. Then, remount the tire onto the rim and verify it fits. Inflate the tire again to maybe 15 lbs. The expanding tube will help set the glue. Let it sit for maybe 10 minutes like that.

    Take off the tire, remove the tube and drill a single hole through both sections of tire using the 7/64" bit. Try not to drill your hand. Choose a point maybe 1 inch back from the cut end of the top section and in between the bigger knobs. Photos 27 - 28 Click image for larger version. 

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    See Part three.

 

 

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