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  1. #1
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    I spend a great deal of time doing things that I hope will prevent people from needlessly taking their lives. Note that word...needlessly. I don't believe it is always a tragedy when someone takes their life. Sometimes the person needs to go and that's that, and I can't be the one who decides they must live with their constant pain and hopelessness. I do think that many people commit suicide thinking that the pain and hopelessness they feel now would be their permanent state if they kept on living, and it's simply not true. Those are the people whom I would like to present with another option, and that's why I do the work that I do.

    Your friend decided to go, and it appears he had good reason. You gave him good memories. I'm sure he'd thank you if he could. :hugs:

    Karen
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  2. #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
    I've been around enough mental illness to appreciate that there is only so much anyone can do--at least not without engaging in codependent behavior.

    Takes real wisdom to recognize that. You gave him a great friend and riding buddy and that's all anyone can really ask for. Hugs to you and be well. as the others said, think about the good times and the positive presence his life was to you.
    Sarah

    When it's easy, ride hard; when it's hard, ride easy.


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  3. #3
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    ((((indy)))) you know how I feel since we've discussed these things...but also know that you're an awesome person, caring of and for your friends, and consistently being there! Plus, you're a highly respected attorney and a newlywed!

    Last month, I found one of my oldest friends had committed suicide...and there are just not answers. No reason, no expectation, universal surprise... I wish I understood, I wish I saw signs...interestingly, his action was highly premeditated...even deleted himself off of Facebook...like he was erasing himself...but still NO ONE saw it coming!

    Some things can't be explained...somethings can't be stopped...
    If you don't grow where you're planted, you'll never BLOOM - Will Rogers

  4. #4
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    Indy,

    I don't have anything enlightening to add I just wanted to say I'm sorry you have to deal with this unfortunate loss. As someone who has a best friend who has been manic on and off for years I understand the difficult decisions you've had to make. I can't know how it effects you exactly as we all cope differently but know you are in my thoughts and prayers.

    WR

  5. #5
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    I don't have much experience in this area, but I'm sorry for your loss. xx

  6. #6
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    There is nothing I can add that hasn't been said. You are in my thoughts.
    Jeannie
    "The bicycle was the first machine to redefine successfully the notion of what is feminine. The bicycle came to symbolize something very precious to women - their independence."—Sally Fox

  7. #7
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    I'm so sorry for your loss. Please don't be so hard on yourself. I can't imagine what your friend went through, but I am certain he knew he was loved and had a good friend in you.
    Kirsten
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    zoomylicious


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  8. #8
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    {{{Indy}}} I can't say more than others already have, but I am sure that he enjoyed the bike time with you. It is no easy thing to lose a friend under any circumstances...

 

 

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