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  1. #1
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    A friend's suicide

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    Over the past three years, three friends have been diagnosed with a brain tumor. The first of these passed away, after a truly gallant fight, this past June, leaving a wife and two sons.

    Saturday, the second one committed suicide. He and I met through our local cycling club in 2006. We did the Bicycle Ride Across Tennessee together in 2007 and 2008. At the 2007 BRAT, he was seemingly well but was diagnosed just two months later with a large, virtually inoperable tumor that had probably been there for some time.

    I struggled with how best to help him. He had some serious emotional issues even before his diagnosis, which he shared with me during BRAT. I told him how helpful therapy had been for me and encouraged him to talk to someone. He did, and I believe he was making progress before his diagnosis. Then he fell to pieces. He started drinking a lot and about a year after his diagnosis, his wife of 23 years left him. I try hard not to judge her for that decision, as it seemed that between his depression and drinking, he may have been very toxic. Still, I felt very sorry for him. Divorce is hard enough as it is without adding a terminal illness into the mix.

    I begged him to get some help, but I'm not sure he did--at least for any length of time. As the months went by, he seemed more and more lost and adrift. I felt completely ill-equipped to do anything more than refer him to my therapist. When I got the call from his best friend (and another cyclist), I knew what he was going to tell me; it came as no surprise. Still, the thought of him so sad and alone is going to haunt me for some time. Another friend of ours just informed me that Saturday was his birthday.

    I have never been truly ill, so I am also in no position to judge his decision to take his own life. Perhaps I would do the same thing. In any event, it pains me to think of him--or anybody--in that kind of emotional distress. I hope and pray that his soul finds peace.

    Thank you for "listening."
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

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    I couldn't imagine it. Take care of yourself, and know that he probably enjoyed the time spent on the bike with you.
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    gosh, I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. He at least had a great friend in you, so try not to let the thought of him being so sad and alone haunt you too much, try to remember the good times instead (I know, easier said than done!!) Hugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badger View Post
    gosh, I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. He at least had a great friend in you, so try not to let the thought of him being so sad and alone haunt you too much, try to remember the good times instead (I know, easier said than done!!) Hugs.
    That's good advice. Thank you.
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

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    That's so sad, and I'm sorry you have lost a friend. Just reading your post tells me you were a good friend to him, and probably one of the bright spots in his life.

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    Indy, you were there for him at important times, that is evident. Try to remember that BRAT ride, and know that he was happy then. It's tragic for everyone involved.. He did the best he could with the tools he had.

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    Big hugs from someone who lost a boyfriend in high school to suicide, and last year, my younger brother, too.

    You need to know that you did the best you could by being a friend, listening, and referring him to help.

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    Oh, I'm so sorry You did all that you could have, you could not have stopped him from doing this. It must be hard to think of him being in pain and sorrow, but you could not have taken that away from him, and you certainly tried!
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    ((((((indy)))))) I'm so sorry.
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    Thanks for all the kind words and hugs to those who have lost someone to suicide. Both my parents lost a parent that way, so it hits close to home for me.

    I actually don't feel guilty or bad that I didn't do more. I've been around enough mental illness to appreciate that there is only so much anyone can do--at least not without engaging in codependent behavior. Mostly I'm just sad. While I understand on some level why he did what he did, I'm sad that it came to that. Like I said, I hope he is at peace. I also hope that those who loved him--especially his elderly mother--finds solace for their grief.
    Live with intention. Walk to the edge. Listen hard. Practice wellness. Play with abandon. Laugh. Choose with no regret. Continue to learn. Appreciate your friends. Do what you love. Live as if this is all there is.

    --Mary Anne Radmacher

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    I spend a great deal of time doing things that I hope will prevent people from needlessly taking their lives. Note that word...needlessly. I don't believe it is always a tragedy when someone takes their life. Sometimes the person needs to go and that's that, and I can't be the one who decides they must live with their constant pain and hopelessness. I do think that many people commit suicide thinking that the pain and hopelessness they feel now would be their permanent state if they kept on living, and it's simply not true. Those are the people whom I would like to present with another option, and that's why I do the work that I do.

    Your friend decided to go, and it appears he had good reason. You gave him good memories. I'm sure he'd thank you if he could. :hugs:

    Karen
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    Quote Originally Posted by indysteel View Post
    I've been around enough mental illness to appreciate that there is only so much anyone can do--at least not without engaging in codependent behavior.

    Takes real wisdom to recognize that. You gave him a great friend and riding buddy and that's all anyone can really ask for. Hugs to you and be well. as the others said, think about the good times and the positive presence his life was to you.
    Sarah

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    ((((indy)))) you know how I feel since we've discussed these things...but also know that you're an awesome person, caring of and for your friends, and consistently being there! Plus, you're a highly respected attorney and a newlywed!

    Last month, I found one of my oldest friends had committed suicide...and there are just not answers. No reason, no expectation, universal surprise... I wish I understood, I wish I saw signs...interestingly, his action was highly premeditated...even deleted himself off of Facebook...like he was erasing himself...but still NO ONE saw it coming!

    Some things can't be explained...somethings can't be stopped...
    If you don't grow where you're planted, you'll never BLOOM - Will Rogers

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    Indy,

    I don't have anything enlightening to add I just wanted to say I'm sorry you have to deal with this unfortunate loss. As someone who has a best friend who has been manic on and off for years I understand the difficult decisions you've had to make. I can't know how it effects you exactly as we all cope differently but know you are in my thoughts and prayers.

    WR

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    I don't have much experience in this area, but I'm sorry for your loss. xx

 

 

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