ok that sounds very doable. i will find out if local bike shop guy can do a fit check like that. he did sort of do one. but obviously there is a problem. and he is going to be putting my custom bike together and doing tune ups and everything he gets lots of business from me since i discovered his shop. closer to me is a surf shop that does bike stuff but the guy who works there is a jerk and not helpful so i don't go there for anything.