I could go to Surly land NOW...if I didn't need to pay for a personal training package... It is THAT work that helps get me in shape for cycling without giving myself a heart attack

The Pacer is beautiful, but I am not looking for a road bike. Salsa broke my heart by not making the Fargo small enough, as Knotted mentioned, so I am rebounding to Surly though I was already curious about both the LHT and CC.