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[OakLeaf]

Well, that just reminds me of this song.

Not Weezer. The association.

[Bruno28]

The other side of Scottish culture:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/8516387.stm

How depressing is that?

[bmccasland]

Happy Mardi Gras



Off to Mardi Gras Mambo Mambo Mambo....
For the first time in years, to see the Rex Parade, King of Mardi Gras
Throw me something, Mister!!!

And it's cold

[Zen]

How depressing is that?

Very.
I wonder if socioeconomics had any part in those findings?

[Bruno28]

Very.
I wonder if socioeconomics had any part in those findings?

Most definitely. The study was done in Glasgow -

'Glasgow is Scotland’s largest city, with a population of over 585,000. The health of these residents is not good compared with the rest of Scotland and indicators of wealth, health, crime, employment and educational attainment reveal the scale and extent of deprivation in Glasgow to be much greater than in any other area.'

[Tuckervill]

Bruno...here's another one: www.ukulizer.com. Very nice.

Karen

[Duck on Wheels]

Very.
I wonder if socioeconomics had any part in those findings?

Violence against women knows no class boundaries. Only difference is that the rich are better at hiding it as they have more space and more privacy, and more social standing to lose if the news gets out.

(Sorry I'm late jumping into the discussion. Haven't been on TE much lately. Too busy finishing a book and a quilt and feeling too guilty about not training. )

And catching up on other news: Hope the knee heals quick, Pax!

[Trek420]

Violence against women knows no class boundaries. Only difference is that the rich are better at hiding it as they have more space and more privacy, and more social standing to lose if the news gets out.

...and better lawyers if the word gets out

[DebW]

My house is on the market! There was an open house this afternoon - we thought it started at 2:00, but it was 1:30 and we were still cleaning when the realtor arrived. Actually finished the cleaning except glass on one window. Now to see how soon it sells...

[Zen]

Violence against women knows no class boundaries. Only difference is that the rich are better at hiding it as they have more space and more privacy, and more social standing to lose if the news gets out.

True, but there's a bit more to it than that.

Lower economic class = less education, less knowledge about options.
Also, without financial support, a woman often feels she has no where else to go.

[snapdragen]

I'm in class this week - Patient Accounting on our hospital's system. **yawn* I need toothpicks for my eyes.

[Catrin]

Snapdragen - I just have to say that I love your avatar - it makes me smile every time I see it

[Duck on Wheels]

True, but there's a bit more to it than that.

Lower economic class = less education, less knowledge about options.
Also, without financial support, a woman often feels she has no where else to go.

Yeah, but even wealthy women can lose so much self-esteem that they can't see the way out. F'rinstance, a news item in Norway lately is an investment banker appealing his conviction for repeated rapes and beatings of wife and lover. Neither of them reported it until the police, while investigating the guy on a corruption charge, came across his letters to the women apologizing to them for these rapes and beatings, took these letters to the ladies and asked about the back stories. Now he says the women're just being vengeful and made it all up, and that somebody planted the letters (including the drafts of the letters found on his hard disc). He's the one with the money and lawyers. Who knows? He may still get away with it.

On the up side, sometimes even poor women can be resilient and resourceful, thank goodness.

Not that I'm saying economic unfairness doesn't matter. It does.

[Duck on Wheels]

A fur hat that won't get you in trouble with the animal rights crowd:

http://www.sol.no/klipps/video/dette...r_eneste_kveld

[OakLeaf]

Yeah, but even wealthy women can lose so much self-esteem that they can't see the way out. F'rinstance, a news item in Norway lately is an investment banker appealing his conviction for repeated rapes and beatings of wife and lover. Neither of them reported it until the police, while investigating the guy on a corruption charge, came across his letters to the women apologizing to them for these rapes and beatings, took these letters to the ladies and asked about the back stories. Now he says the women're just being vengeful and made it all up, and that somebody planted the letters (including the drafts of the letters found on his hard disc). He's the one with the money and lawyers. Who knows? He may still get away with it.

On the up side, sometimes even poor women can be resilient and resourceful, thank goodness.

Not that I'm saying economic unfairness doesn't matter. It does.

Anyone remember Charlotte Fedders? It hasn't been all that long ago.

A woman whose husband is wealthy isn't necessarily wealthy herself... even if some or all of the money was hers originally. Economic abuse is a key factor of domestic violence.

And, a woman from a wealthy family may feel she has an image to protect, may never have heard her peers talking about being abused themselves, may feel even more isolated than poor women who have always shared such stories with their peers, and who have no class-status barriers to going to the shelter.

The story the OP linked to originally had to do with the attitudes of children, not the actual incidence of DV. Their opinions have as much to do with verbal abuse in the home, women's status in their schools and places of worship, and the general portrayal of women in the media, as with any specific occurrences in their homes.

Certainly economic stress is one of the stressors that can make a physical slap out of what might otherwise have been an insult. But it didn't create the power inequality in the relationship, and that's the root of the problem.