Made in China- do we care?

**smilingcat** · 02-03-2010, 05:03 PM

farmers market for 3/50 challange. Be a localvore!!

**Trek420** · 02-03-2010, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by OakLeaf

My challenge: choose businesses besides my favorite local restaurants.

And what's wrong with that?

**BleeckerSt_Girl** · 02-04-2010, 03:22 PM

Much of the honey sold in large box stores and supermarket chains is labeled as "Product of Malaysia/Argentina/India/Taiwan", etc etc. In actuality it likely contains honey from China and has been resold /laundered through these other countries to avoid paying U.S. duty taxes on imported Chinese honey. The trouble is that randomly tested honey from China has been found to contain unacceptable amounts of antibiotics, pesticides, and is sometimes adulterated with corn syrup to increase profits. Read the labels in your local supermarket and you'll see such honey being sold. Um,...Taiwan, Malaysia and Indonesia don't even HAVE commercial honey industries, yet they are exporting millions of pounds of honey yearly to the US, labeled as "product of..." their country.
http://home.ezezine.com/1636/1636-20...3.archive.html

Buy your honey produced by a local beekeeper/apiary in or near your community. Find out which natural food stores and farm stands/orchards sell honey from your area, make it your business to know where your honey came from, and support your local beekeepers. Help keep them from being put out of business by cheap contaminated Chinese honey laundered internationally by greedy distributors.

**Susan Otcenas** · 02-04-2010, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl

Buy your honey produce by a local beekeeper/apiary in or near your community.

A couple years ago, Jeff's dad let a local beekeeper set up hives on his farm. That Christmas, we each received a HUGE bucket of honey. Honey lasts for ever. We still have honey from that wonderful gift!

**KnottedYet** · 02-04-2010, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by BleeckerSt_Girl

Um,...Taiwan, Malaysia and Indonesia don't even HAVE commercial honey industries, yet they are exporting millions of pounds of honey yearly to the US, labeled as "product of..." their country.

Now THAT'S scary!

I just checked my bottle of honey. It says "Pacific Northwest Clover Honey" and the ingredient is "US Grade A Honey." From Eugene, Oregon. That's 5 hours away, but local enough for me. www.glorybeehoney.com

My last batch of honey was from a different store, and they were having a special on local Washington honey so I bought a big tub.

My Great-Grandpa swore that if you ate a tablespoon of local honey a day you would stay good and healthy. I'm gonna be careful about my honey from now on.

**NbyNW** · 02-04-2010, 07:53 PM

The Seattle PI did an excellent feature on the honey laundering problem a couple of years ago:

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/394053_honey30.asp

**Trek420** · 02-04-2010, 08:51 PM

Another reason to buy local honey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder

Bees feed the farms, farms feed you, repeat as needed. Yet another good reason to buy local and organic whenever you can, can afford to.

I keep trying to come up with 3 for the 3/50 challenge and it's always food

or 1/50 and make it my favorite new/used/independent local bookstore.

**Juiceflight** · 02-04-2010, 09:02 PM

Try Boure cycling clothing. It's made in Durango, Co by Ned Overend and co. Nice stuff!

**OakLeaf** · 02-05-2010, 04:51 AM

What I'm really bad about is ordering parts through the bike shops closest to me, when I can drive another 25 miles and have them now. Stuff like cleats, cassettes, chains. I make an excuse that it's still a "local" bike shop (even though they have three locations and an online presence). But... my communities are pretty depressed. The city where the bigger shop is located, not so much. I'll try to do better this year.

**bmccasland** · 02-05-2010, 04:56 AM

I have selection of honey in my cupboard, I could do a taste test: desert honey from Tucson, mountain honey from Flagstaff, north shore Lake Pontchartrain honey, Baton Rouge honey, and there's one other one.... or maybe two... some is privately produced; some commercial, but small batch commercial.
Then there's this canning jar of really dark stuff on my counter, it's honey, it's old.... survivied a hurricane or two in a camp before it was brought to the safety of the office.

**KnottedYet** · 02-05-2010, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by OakLeaf

What I'm really bad about is ordering parts through the bike shops closest to me, when I can drive another 25 miles and have them now. Stuff like cleats, cassettes, chains. I make an excuse that it's still a "local" bike shop (even though they have three locations and an online presence). But... my communities are pretty depressed. The city where the bigger shop is located, not so much. I'll try to do better this year.

I do something similar: I find what I want online, then go to my LBS and buy it or ask them to order it for me if they don't have it. I did ask if they still make a profit on special orders, and they said they do.

If I find clothes online or in a catalog that I like, I check TE for them first. (the clothes I wore for my wedding were from TE!) (oh, and so were the clothes I wore when we got engaged and went ring shopping) (and so was the bike gear I was wearing when we rode our bikes to the courthouse to get our marriage license!)

**Susan Otcenas** · 02-05-2010, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by KnottedYet

If I find clothes online or in a catalog that I like, I check TE for them first. (the clothes I wore for my wedding were from TE!) (oh, and so were the clothes I wore when we got engaged and went ring shopping) (and so was the bike gear I was wearing when we rode our bikes to the courthouse to get our marriage license!)

I can't begin to describe how incredibly honored and humble and thrilled and and and ...wow, those words don't even come close to describing the emotion I feel when I read this. Thank you.

I know we aren't "local" for many of you. But we are just a small business of 10 people trying to do our very best for our customers, our sport(s) and our community. I'm so honored that all of you have made us a part of your lives.

Susan

**KnottedYet** · 02-05-2010, 10:46 AM

Shebeest. Appropriate for a wide assortment of occaisions. I'm just sayin'...

http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...eview+shebeest
http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showt...eview+shebeest

**deeaimond** · 02-05-2010, 05:17 PM

the honey stuff is scary..... I'd never thought... I guess now if I want to buy honey it'll have to be the $40 a jar stuff from new zealand...

**kjay** · 02-05-2010, 06:47 PM

This doesn't apply to biking clothes, but recently my hubby and I decided to no longer buy stuff made in China. Our coffeemaker recently went kaput, so we spent about four hours looking for one not made in China. Finally, one of the sales gals told me her sister found one on the Internet, a handmade coffeemaker made in Holland. Where there's a will there's a way, so they say.

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