Nutritionist and sport drink mix question

[Catrin]

Are you thinking of Perpetuem?

http://www.hammernutrition.com/produ...-energy-drinks

One dose of that would fulfill the uptick in calories you need & it has the carb/electrolyte/protein combo you were looking for.

I train with it every week. Huge fan. The caffe' latte flavor is great mixed as a paste or sports drink.

Hth!

I have tried to find the post but haven't been successful - it may be from a dream Someone DID mention Cytomax, and it looks interesting - but no protein. Perpetuem sounds interesting, but does it have as strong a flavor as it sounds like? I am hoping to find something with as mild a flavor as possible - and I am not a fan of coffee.... I do drink it, but I don't really care for the flavor without things like chocolate and half/half to mask the taste So I don't really get coffee these days

I did look at the Hammersmith site, and noted they have another formulation called Steady Endurance, something like that. Obviously research is needed.

[Pedal Wench]

Sustained by Hammer has no flavor at all. I like the Orange/Vanilla Perpetuem - it's a very mild, sweet flavor, but not overpowering in any way. They both have protein.

I'm a huge fan of Infinit nutrition drinks. You can make a custom blend with exactly how much protein, flavor, carbs, electrolytes and even caffeine that you want.

[Urlea]

You can get Perpetuem unflavored, just have to buy the 16 servings packet. I haven't tried it as like I said I'm a big fan of the Latte flavor. I never drink straight coffee either, it's too strong for me so I get a mocha or something along those lines, I would say that the caffe latte is more like that then coffee it's not bitter at all.

Haven't tried the Sustained Energy yet.

Hope you find what you are looking for though!

[OakLeaf]

Perpetuem takes some getting used to IMO. If you like soy milk you'll like Perpetuem - it has a pronounced soy flavor. It's not at all sweet.

[Catrin]

Perpetuem takes some getting used to IMO. If you like soy milk you'll like Perpetuem - it has a pronounced soy flavor. It's not at all sweet.

Thanks for the note, I don't care for the taste of soy milk at all so will check out Sustained Energy. It sounds like it would fit the bill, and it is unflavored - Pedal Wrench confirmed that - thanks! The less flavor, the more I will be inclined to drink it - when I get thirsty flavored drinks just do not taste good to me.

The Gu Electrolyte Brew isn't bad, and I am going to try Cytomax since I can get a small amount - but of course neither of these have protein. I don't think the protein is really necessary for spinning class, but when I can get out on the road and start building some mileage on Stella I want to have this nutrition thing worked out.

Thanks for the ideas and tips, they are greatly appreciated!

[malaholic]

On a related topic, someone said that she used a mix for her water that provides protein as well as electrolytes and carbs.

I think this might have been my post, and I was indeed talking about Perpetuem. However AFAIK it does *not* include electrolytes...the 3rd component is lipids. (Incidentally, if you decide to try it, be aware that you need to either drink it the same day you prepare it, or else refrigerate it if you mix it in advance - the lipid content means it will go rancid if you just leave it out. I learned this the hard way!)

At first I was bummed that they didn't include electrolytes in the mix, but it makes sense now - when I'm doing long training rides in colder weather I don't want/need the electrolytes though I do need the carbs. If I drink electrolyte-heavy stuff when I'm not actually sweating much, it just makes me have to pee. For riding in hotter weather I'll take along some endurolyte capsules and then I'm all set.

I've been happy enough with Perpetuem that I haven't tried Sustained Energy yet...but here's some comparison info from Hammer's website:

Comparing Sustained Energy and Perpetuem
•Sustained Energy is neutrally (a.k.a. "plain") flavored. Perpetuem is available in three options: an orange-vanilla "Dreamsicle" flavor, a caffeinated caffe latte flavor (12.5 mg of caffeine per scoop), and in an unflavored/plain version.
•Perpetuem contains lyso-lecithin fat, whereas Sustained Energy does not.
•Perpetuem contains tribasic sodium phosphate, which is a tremendous lactic acid buffer. Sustained Energy does not contain this nutrient.
•Both fuels contain l-carnosine (an antioxidant that also buffers lactic acid), l-carnitine (to promote fatty acid utilization), and chromium polynicotinate (to stabilize blood sugar levels).
Bottom line: With Sustained Energy and Perpetuem, you have two great long distance fuel choices. When exercise goes beyond about two hours, you can use either product as your primary or sole fuel, in any combination with each other or any other Hammer Nutrition fuel.

That said, we have noted that Sustained Energy may be the ideal fuel choice when endurance exercise intensity is at a higher level (approximately 70-85% MHR), whereas Perpetuem may be a more attractive choice the longer the athlete goes and when exercise intensity is at a more aerobic pace (under 70% MHR). Additionally, over the years we have noted that Sustained Energy may be the ideal choice for very lean athletes (the "high metabolizer/hyper-metabolic" types), while Perpetuem - with its added healthy fat component - may be the ideal choice for athletes with a naturally higher body fat percentage. The rationale for this suggestion is that athletes with a higher body fat percentage have a greater volume of calories available from body fat stores, which the lyso-lecithin component of Perpetuem may effectively assist in accessing for use as energy.

Again though, because the applications for Sustained Energy and Perpetuem are identical, either fuel can be used as the primary-to-sole fuel during prolonged bouts of exercise. Test each product in your long-duration workouts, under a variety of conditions, to find which product works best for you!

Hm....guess I'll stick with Perpetuem based on that "naturally higher body fat percentage" that I have.

[Catrin]

Hm....guess I'll stick with Perpetuem based on that "naturally higher body fat percentage" that I have.

Thanks for the good information, I had already been on their site, but the comparison is good. I strongly dislike the flavor of soy milk though...and someone has noted that it does have that taste. I guess that what I need to do is to contact them and see if I can talk them out of two samples

P.S. I have that same naturally higher body fat percentage - though my trainer is trying his best to change that

[Pedal Wench]

I should add that Sustained needs something else added to it - it's really bland on its own. I mixed it with Gu2O powder for electrolytes, sweetness and flavor.

And, can't stress this enough - Sustained and Perpetuem have very limited "shelf" life. Once mixed, you have about 2-3 hours to drink it before it starts to get "skunky." The both are soy-based, but never noticed a strong soy taste from them. However, the flavors might overpower that.

I like the Infinit because I can get electrolytes and protein in amounts I control - less in the winter, more in summer.